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Author: Brian Cluff
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Subject: Re: walking pictures
If all the pictures are on top of each other, it sounds to me like you
haven't told Hugin to look for control points.

Brian Cluff

On 03/08/2016 04:42 PM, Michael wrote:
> okay..... this is what hugin is doing: it is putting all of the
> photographs on top of each other. Is there some setting I need to change?
>
> On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 6:11 PM, Michael <
> <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     not using the tripod must be why it isn't finding any control points
>     automatically.

>
>     On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 5:29 PM, Brian Cluff <
>     <mailto:brian@snaptek.com>> wrote:

>
>         When making panoramas inside you MUST use some sort of rig to
>         spin the camera perfectly on it's focal point.  That's the only
>         way to make sure that you aren't introducing a lot of parallax
>         distortion.  If you are outside you can often get away with just
>         taking a bunch of pictures in a circle because objects in the
>         picture are far enough away that a few inches won't be
>         noticeable, but when you are inside just a couple of inches of
>         difference in the pictures causes a tremendous amount of
>         distortion that Hugin won't be able to deal with automatically,
>         and even if you manually set control points, the control points
>         won't make sense to Hugin because the distortion will skew the
>         math.  It is possible to manually set control points but you
>         have to only set points on objects that are all the same
>         distance from the camera.  If you try to set control points that
>         are at different distances, that's where you run into trouble.
>         It's like when you hold you your finger in front of your face
>         and alternately close one eye and then the other and your finger
>         jumps back and forth... the same things happens inside Hugin and
>         it really doesn't like it.

>
>         On a related note, just because I have time to type more, you
>         can use Hugin to stitch panoramas of distant objects that have
>         smaller objects in the foreground, such as a sign at the grand
>         canyon telling you not to jump off, that you don't want in the
>         picture, by purposely taking pictures that would normally
>         introduce distortion.  All you have to do is make sure that you
>         only set control points on the furthest away landscape that you
>         really want, and then use Hugin's masking feature to mask out
>         the object (sign in this case) that you don't want and when it
>         gets done you will have a nice signless pictures of your landscape.

>
>         Brian Cluff

>
>         On 03/08/2016 02:52 PM, Michael wrote:

>
>             Yeah, I spent a long time putting control points in and it
>             didn't seem
>             to like to do the inside spherical panorama.

>
>             On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Anthony Radzykewycz
>             <
>             <mailto:anthony.radzykewycz@gatewaycc.edu>
>             <mailto:anthony.radzykewycz@gatewaycc.edu
>             <mailto:anthony.radzykewycz@gatewaycc.edu>>> wrote:

>
>                  Unfortunately, I am not familiar with any other
>             applications to
>                  accomplish the goal at hand.

>
>                  On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 8:22 PM, Michael
>             < <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>
>                  <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>>> wrote:

>
>                      well..... I guess that doesn't help so much

>
>                      On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 8:18 PM, Michael
>             < <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>
>                      <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com
>             <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>>> wrote:

>
>                          I'll tell ya, I don't know why it isn't working
>             but it
>                          isn't. So I was just about to ask the group if
>             they know of
>                          a tutorial when the thought occurred to me that
>             I should
>                          google for it first. That turned up:

>
>             http://arachnoid.com/drones/drone_images.html

>
>                          On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 12:12 PM, Brian Cluff
>                          < <mailto:brian@snaptek.com>
>             <mailto:brian@snaptek.com <mailto:brian@snaptek.com>>> wrote:

>
>                              Have you tried clicking "Fit" under the
>             Move and Drag
>                              tab.  There might be more of your panorama
>             that is off
>                              the display and is being cropped.

>
>                              Brian

>
>
>                              On 03/06/2016 10:02 AM, Michael wrote:

>
>                                  I just did it again and all the
>                 pictures showed up
>                                  correctly but it only did halp of the
>                 sphere. Does my
>                                  'projection need to be something specific?

>
>                                  On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Michael
>                                  <
>                 <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com> <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com
>                 <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>>> wrote:

>
>                                      I tried that about an hour ago but
>                 it turned six
>                                      of the images 180 degrees for some
>                 reason. I
>                                      looked at what it was reading the
>                 data from and
>                                      the pictures were fine.

>
>                                      On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 11:10 AM,
>                 Brian Cluff
>                                      <<mailto:Brian@snaptek.com
>                 <mailto:Brian@snaptek.com>>
>                 <mailto:Brian@snaptek.com>
>                                      <mailto:Brian@snaptek.com
>                 <mailto:Brian@snaptek.com>>> wrote:

>
>                                          Hugin can make 360 spherical
>                 pianos without
>                                          any special effort. Just put
>                 all the images
>                                          into Hugin that make up the
>                 sphere and it will
>                                          do the test. The tutorial that
>                 you linked to
>                                          is how to make an HDR spherical
>                 panorama,
>                                          that's a little more effort
>                 than I think you
>                                          want to do for real estate photos.

>
>                                          Brian Cluff

>
>                                          On March 6, 2016 6:33:03 AM
>                 MST, Michael
>                                          <
>                 <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com> <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com
>                 <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>>>
>                                          wrote:

>
>                                              I was sitting here thinking
>                 that hugin
>                                              should be able to do this
>                 and that someone
>                                              should suggest it to a
>                 developer. Then I
>                                              thought someone might have
>                 done that
>                                              already. So I did a
>                 websearch! Look at
>                                              what I found:

>
>                 http://hugin.sourceforge.net/tutorials/enfuse-360/en.shtml

>
>                                              On Sat, Mar 5, 2016 at
>                 10:13 PM, Brian
>                                              Cluff
>                                              <<mailto:brian@snaptek.com
>                 <mailto:brian@snaptek.com>>
>                 <mailto:brian@snaptek.com>

>
>                                              <mailto:brian@snaptek.com
>                 <mailto:brian@snaptek.com>>> wrote:

>
>                                                  Try:
>                                                  apt-get install
>                 python-opengl

>
>                                                  Brian Cluff

>
>                                                  On 03/05/2016 06:30 PM,
>                 Michael wrote:

>
>                                                      I thought about it
>                 and think I
>                                                      realized the error
>                 of my ways;
>                                                      python.exe
>                                                      is because python
>                 is not
>                                                      automatically in
>                 Windows like with
>                                                      Linux so I
>                                                      don't need that
>                 program.
>                                                      Unfortunately when
>                 I tried to run
>                                                      the other
>                                                      program:

>
>                                                      $ python PhotoSphere.py
>                                                      Traceback (most
>                 recent call last):
>                                                         File
>                 "PhotoSphere.py", line 21,
>                                                      in <module>
>                                                           from OpenGL.GL
>                 import *
>                                                      ImportError: No
>                 module named OpenGL.GL

>
>                                                      so I apt-get
>                 install opengl.gl <http://opengl.gl>
>                                                      <http://opengl.gl>
>                                                      <http://opengl.gl>
>                 . Unfortunately
>                                                      I get
>                                                      the same error
>                 after installing
>                 opengl.gl <http://opengl.gl> <http://opengl.gl>
>                                                      <http://opengl.gl>
>                 . Then I
>                                                      tried apt-get
>                 install openGL.GL
>                                                      but am informed
>                 that the program is
>                                                      already installed.

>
>
>
>                                                      On Fri, Mar 4, 2016
>                 at 8:39 PM,
>                                                      Michael

>
>                 <<mailto:bmike1@gmail.com
>                 <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>>
>                 <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>

>
>                 <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>>

>
>                 <mailto:<mailto:bmike1@gmail.com
>                 <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>>
>                 <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>

>
>                 <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>>>> wrote:

>
>                                                          Ifound
>                 something that might be
>                                                      sorta wahat I'm
>                 looking for.

>
>                 <http://meestuff.blogspot.com/2013/08/google-photo-sphere-viewer-for-desktop.html>http://meestuff.blogspot.com/2013/08/google-photo-sphere-viewer-for-desktop.html

>
>                                                      .
>                                                          It is suppossed
>                 to work with
>                                                      Linux.
>                                                          I download the
>                 file and
>                                                      extract it but
>                 there are no
>                                                      instructions to
>                                                          install it. I
>                 opened the bat
>                                                      file and the
>                 contents of it seemed to
>                                                          be instructions
>                 for installing
>                                                      but unfortuatly:

>
>
>                 bmike1@MikesBeast

>
>                 ~/Documents/Programs/PhotoSphereBundle
>                                                      $

>
>                 ./App/python.exe
>                                                      ./App/PhotoSphere.py

>
>                                                          bash:
>                 ./App/python.exe:
>                                                      Permission denied

>
>
>                 bmike1@MikesBeast

>
>                 ~/Documents/Programs/PhotoSphereBundle
>                                                      $

>
>                 .\App\python.exe
>                                                      .\App\PhotoSphere.py

>
>                                                          .Apppython.exe:
>                 command not found
>                                                          Please, how do
>                 I install it?

>
>                                                          On Fri, Mar 4,
>                 2016 at 4:03
>                                                      PM, Michael

>
>                 <<mailto:bmike1@gmail.com
>                 <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>>
>                 <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>

>
>                 <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>>

>
>
>                 <mailto:<mailto:bmike1@gmail.com
>                 <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>>
>                 <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>

>
>                 <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>>>> wrote:

>
>                                                              Thank you
>                 very much
>                                                      Anthony. This
>                 sounds very much
>                                                      like what I
>                                                              would like
>                 to use.
>                                                              When I
>                 searched for
>                                                      'street google
>                 street view'
>                                                      yesterday I
>                                                              could not
>                 find it in the
>                                                      playstore. I
>                 searched for
>                                                      photospere in
>                                                              google  and
>                 that search
>                                                      revealed that  it
>                 was put on
>                                                      android 4.2
>                                                              and my
>                 phone is only a
>                                                      2.2. Is there a way
>                 to download it (or
>                                                              something
>                 similar) to my
>                                                      computer?

>
>
>                                                              On Fri, Mar
>                 4, 2016 at
>                                                      1:58 PM, Anthony
>                 Radzykewycz

>
>
>                 <<mailto:anthony.radzykewycz@gatewaycc.edu
>                 <mailto:anthony.radzykewycz@gatewaycc.edu>>
>                 <mailto:anthony.radzykewycz@gatewaycc.edu>

>
>                 <mailto:anthony.radzykewycz@gatewaycc.edu
>                 <mailto:anthony.radzykewycz@gatewaycc.edu>>

>
>
>                 <mailto:<mailto:anthony.radzykewycz@gatewaycc.edu
>                 <mailto:anthony.radzykewycz@gatewaycc.edu>>
>                 <mailto:anthony.radzykewycz@gatewaycc.edu>

>
>
>                 <mailto:anthony.radzykewycz@gatewaycc.edu
>                 <mailto:anthony.radzykewycz@gatewaycc.edu>>>>
>                                                      wrote:

>
>                                                                  The app
>                 will guide you
>                                                      on how many
>                 pictures to take and use

>
>                 circular guides that
>                                                      you need to
>                 'cover.' It takes the

>
>                 pictures when you have
>                                                      'covered the
>                 circle. From there, the
>                                                                  app
>                 stitches it all
>                                                      together for you
>                 and then you can
>                                                      upload
>                                                                  it to
>                 Google maps. If
>                                                      you wanted to embed
>                 the photoshphere,
>                                                                  they
>                 have an api that
>                                                      you can sign up for
>                 to showcase that.
>                                                                  I hope
>                 to work on
>                                                      mapping out paths
>                 between the

>
>                 photospheres, but we
>                                                      have not really
>                 started on that
>                                                      portion
>                                                                  at all.
>                 Try it out. I
>                                                      was really amazed
>                 at the ease of use
>                                                                  of the app.

>
>
>
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