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Author: Michael
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Subject: Re: walking pictures
not using the tripod must be why it isn't finding any control points
automatically.

On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 5:29 PM, Brian Cluff <> wrote:

> When making panoramas inside you MUST use some sort of rig to spin the
> camera perfectly on it's focal point. That's the only way to make sure
> that you aren't introducing a lot of parallax distortion. If you are
> outside you can often get away with just taking a bunch of pictures in a
> circle because objects in the picture are far enough away that a few inches
> won't be noticeable, but when you are inside just a couple of inches of
> difference in the pictures causes a tremendous amount of distortion that
> Hugin won't be able to deal with automatically, and even if you manually
> set control points, the control points won't make sense to Hugin because
> the distortion will skew the math. It is possible to manually set control
> points but you have to only set points on objects that are all the same
> distance from the camera. If you try to set control points that are at
> different distances, that's where you run into trouble. It's like when you
> hold you your finger in front of your face and alternately close one eye
> and then the other and your finger jumps back and forth... the same things
> happens inside Hugin and it really doesn't like it.
>
> On a related note, just because I have time to type more, you can use
> Hugin to stitch panoramas of distant objects that have smaller objects in
> the foreground, such as a sign at the grand canyon telling you not to jump
> off, that you don't want in the picture, by purposely taking pictures that
> would normally introduce distortion. All you have to do is make sure that
> you only set control points on the furthest away landscape that you really
> want, and then use Hugin's masking feature to mask out the object (sign in
> this case) that you don't want and when it gets done you will have a nice
> signless pictures of your landscape.
>
> Brian Cluff
>
> On 03/08/2016 02:52 PM, Michael wrote:
>
>> Yeah, I spent a long time putting control points in and it didn't seem
>> to like to do the inside spherical panorama.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Anthony Radzykewycz
>> <
>> <mailto:anthony.radzykewycz@gatewaycc.edu>> wrote:
>>
>>     Unfortunately, I am not familiar with any other applications to
>>     accomplish the goal at hand.

>>
>>     On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 8:22 PM, Michael <
>>     <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>> wrote:

>>
>>         well..... I guess that doesn't help so much

>>
>>         On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 8:18 PM, Michael <
>>         <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>> wrote:

>>
>>             I'll tell ya, I don't know why it isn't working but it
>>             isn't. So I was just about to ask the group if they know of
>>             a tutorial when the thought occurred to me that I should
>>             google for it first. That turned up:

>>
>>             http://arachnoid.com/drones/drone_images.html

>>
>>             On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 12:12 PM, Brian Cluff
>>             < <mailto:brian@snaptek.com>> wrote:

>>
>>                 Have you tried clicking "Fit" under the Move and Drag
>>                 tab.  There might be more of your panorama that is off
>>                 the display and is being cropped.

>>
>>                 Brian

>>
>>
>>                 On 03/06/2016 10:02 AM, Michael wrote:

>>
>>>                 I just did it again and all the pictures showed up
>>>                 correctly but it only did halp of the sphere. Does my
>>>                 'projection need to be something specific?

>>>
>>>                 On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Michael
>>>                 < <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>> wrote:

>>>
>>>                     I tried that about an hour ago but it turned six
>>>                     of the images 180 degrees for some reason. I
>>>                     looked at what it was reading the data from and
>>>                     the pictures were fine.

>>>
>>>                     On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 11:10 AM, Brian Cluff
>>>                     <<mailto:Brian@snaptek.com>
>>>                     <mailto:Brian@snaptek.com>> wrote:

>>>
>>>                         Hugin can make 360 spherical pianos without
>>>                         any special effort. Just put all the images
>>>                         into Hugin that make up the sphere and it will
>>>                         do the test. The tutorial that you linked to
>>>                         is how to make an HDR spherical panorama,
>>>                         that's a little more effort than I think you
>>>                         want to do for real estate photos.

>>>
>>>                         Brian Cluff

>>>
>>>                         On March 6, 2016 6:33:03 AM MST, Michael
>>>                         < <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>>
>>>                         wrote:

>>>
>>>                             I was sitting here thinking that hugin
>>>                             should be able to do this and that someone
>>>                             should suggest it to a developer. Then I
>>>                             thought someone might have done that
>>>                             already. So I did a websearch! Look at
>>>                             what I found:

>>>
>>>
>>> http://hugin.sourceforge.net/tutorials/enfuse-360/en.shtml
>>>
>>>                             On Sat, Mar 5, 2016 at 10:13 PM, Brian
>>>                             Cluff
>>>                             <<mailto:brian@snaptek.com>

>>>
>>>                             <mailto:brian@snaptek.com>> wrote:

>>>
>>>                                 Try:
>>>                                 apt-get install python-opengl

>>>
>>>                                 Brian Cluff

>>>
>>>                                 On 03/05/2016 06:30 PM, Michael wrote:

>>>
>>>                                     I thought about it and think I
>>>                                     realized the error of my ways;
>>>                                     python.exe
>>>                                     is because python is not
>>>                                     automatically in Windows like with
>>>                                     Linux so I
>>>                                     don't need that program.
>>>                                     Unfortunately when I tried to run
>>>                                     the other
>>>                                     program:

>>>
>>>                                     $ python PhotoSphere.py
>>>                                     Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>                                        File "PhotoSphere.py", line 21,
>>>                                     in <module>
>>>                                          from OpenGL.GL import *
>>>                                     ImportError: No module named
>>> OpenGL.GL

>>>
>>>                                     so I apt-get install opengl.gl
>>>                                     <http://opengl.gl>
>>>                                     <http://opengl.gl> . Unfortunately
>>>                                     I get
>>>                                     the same error after installing
>>>                                     opengl.gl <http://opengl.gl>
>>>                                     <http://opengl.gl> . Then I
>>>                                     tried apt-get install openGL.GL
>>>                                     but am informed that the program is
>>>                                     already installed.

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                     On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 8:39 PM,
>>>                                     Michael
>>>                                     <<mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>
>>> 
>>>                                     <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>
>>>                                     <mailto:<mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>
>>> 
>>>                                     <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>>> wrote:

>>>
>>>                                         Ifound something that might be
>>>                                     sorta wahat I'm looking for.
>>>                                     <
>>> http://meestuff.blogspot.com/2013/08/google-photo-sphere-viewer-for-desktop.html

>>> >
>>> http://meestuff.blogspot.com/2013/08/google-photo-sphere-viewer-for-desktop.html
>>>
>>>                                     .
>>>                                         It is suppossed to work with
>>>                                     Linux.
>>>                                         I download the file and
>>>                                     extract it but there are no
>>>                                     instructions to
>>>                                         install it. I opened the bat
>>>                                     file and the contents of it seemed to
>>>                                         be instructions for installing
>>>                                     but unfortuatly:

>>>
>>>                                             bmike1@MikesBeast

>>>
>>> ~/Documents/Programs/PhotoSphereBundle
>>>                                     $
>>>                                             ./App/python.exe
>>>                                     ./App/PhotoSphere.py

>>>
>>>                                         bash: ./App/python.exe:
>>>                                     Permission denied

>>>
>>>                                             bmike1@MikesBeast

>>>
>>> ~/Documents/Programs/PhotoSphereBundle
>>>                                     $
>>>                                             .\App\python.exe
>>>                                     .\App\PhotoSphere.py

>>>
>>>                                         .Apppython.exe: command not found
>>>                                         Please, how do I install it?

>>>
>>>                                         On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 4:03
>>>                                     PM, Michael
>>>                                     <<mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>
>>> 
>>>                                     <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>

>>>
>>>                                     <mailto:<mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>
>>> 
>>>                                     <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>>> wrote:

>>>
>>>                                             Thank you very much
>>>                                     Anthony. This sounds very much
>>>                                     like what I
>>>                                             would like to use.
>>>                                             When I searched for
>>>                                     'street google street view'
>>>                                     yesterday I
>>>                                             could not find it in the
>>>                                     playstore. I searched for
>>>                                     photospere in
>>>                                             google  and that search
>>>                                     revealed that  it was put on
>>>                                     android 4.2
>>>                                             and my phone is only a
>>>                                     2.2. Is there a way to download it
>>> (or
>>>                                             something similar) to my
>>>                                     computer?

>>>
>>>
>>>                                             On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at
>>>                                     1:58 PM, Anthony Radzykewycz

>>>
>>>                                     <<mailto:
>>> >
>>>                                     <mailto:
>>> >

>>>
>>>                                     <mailto:<mailto:
>>> >

>>>
>>>                                     <mailto:
>>> >>>
>>>                                     wrote:

>>>
>>>                                                 The app will guide you
>>>                                     on how many pictures to take and use
>>>                                                 circular guides that
>>>                                     you need to 'cover.' It takes the
>>>                                                 pictures when you have
>>>                                     'covered the circle. From there, the
>>>                                                 app stitches it all
>>>                                     together for you and then you can
>>>                                     upload
>>>                                                 it to Google maps. If
>>>                                     you wanted to embed the photoshphere,
>>>                                                 they have an api that
>>>                                     you can sign up for to showcase that.
>>>                                                 I hope to work on
>>>                                     mapping out paths between the
>>>                                                 photospheres, but we
>>>                                     have not really started on that
>>>                                     portion
>>>                                                 at all. Try it out. I
>>>                                     was really amazed at the ease of use
>>>                                                 of the app.

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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