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Author: Brian Cluff
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Subject: Re: superimpose image
Yeah, your right... that's what I meant, and what I do.... Brain fart!

Brian Cluff

On 01/11/2016 11:15 AM, Stephen Partington wrote:
> Careful about using multiple F-Stops. it can alter your depth of field
> and give you really weird hazing. it is usually better to alter
> shutter speed if anything. so the depth of feild and ISO noise is the
> same.
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Brian Cluff <
> <mailto:brian@snaptek.com>> wrote:
>
>     While you can use software to fake it, it doesn't give you the
>     same quality as you would get from 3 separate images shot at
>     different F Stops.
>     The biggest difference you will see when using a single image is
>     that the darker parts of your fake HDR image will be very
>     grainy/noisy and there will also be some noise that spills over to
>     the rest of the image.

>
>     You can do a lot better if your single image is a RAW image with
>     it's higher bit-depth instead of it's JPEG equivalent, but even
>     then, without the longer exposure time that you would get from
>     using a larger F-stop the data simply isn't there is be able to
>     expand for HDR (really tonemaped) images.

>
>     Brian Cluff

>
>
>     On 01/11/2016 09:48 AM, Michael Havens wrote:
>>     I was wondering... would using software to over/under expose an
>>     image be the same as taking 3 images which have been physically
>>     altered? Less wear and tear on the camera is good!

>>
>>     Also, I was watching a tutorial on luminance hdr and in his
>>     version the software had a bunch of variation of an hdr which
>>     could be modified. My version doesn't seem to have that. Is there
>>     a setting?

>>
>>     On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 9:58 PM, Brian Cluff <
>>     <mailto:brian@snaptek.com>> wrote:

>>
>>         Use LuminanceHDR for exposure blending.  GIMP is waaaaaay too
>>         much work to get just one way to blending the images. 
>>         Luminance on the other hard offers a tons of different
>>         methods and then you can tweak the settings within each
>>         method.  It's all very easy and gives you much better results.

>>
>>         Brian Cluff

>>
>>         On 01/07/2016 05:51 PM, Michael Havens wrote:

>>
>>             thank you so much man. I really appreciate it. I
>>             certaainly will devote
>>             10% of my available   brain to these videos tomorrow. Do
>>             you know of any
>>             videos or text teaching how to do exposure blending with
>>             gimp2.8? all
>>             the tuts  I've been finding are incomplete or are how to
>>             do it with 2.2!

>>
>>             On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 7:37 PM, Brian Cluff
>>             < <mailto:brian@snaptek.com>
>>             <mailto:brian@snaptek.com <mailto:brian@snaptek.com>>> wrote:

>>
>>                 There's a ton of ways to do what you want.  The
>>             biggest thing you
>>                 will have to worry about is lighting.  For instance,
>>             if you are
>>                 putting something that was lit from the left into a
>>             scene that was
>>                 lit from the right, then there is little you can do.
>>             No matter how
>>                 carefully you add it to your scene your brain will
>>             always tell you
>>                 there is something wrong with the picture.

>>
>>                 I tend to use a couple of different techniques to put
>>             one image into
>>                 another.
>>                 If the background is a relatively solid color, I'll
>>             use a technique
>>                 similar to this example for cutting out images while
>>             preserving fine
>>                 details (hair in this example)... hint, you don't use
>>             ANY of the
>>                 selection tools, or copy and past.
>>             https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnbxtMCHKV0
>>                 or
>>             https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jle81ofRLok
>>                 or
>>             https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quAChCnK_Dk

>>
>>                 The other way I like combine image is brushing out
>>             the background
>>                 using layer masks as demonstrated in this video with
>>             the leg:
>>             https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHJAJziWDs0

>>
>>                 I usually use a combination of the 2 techniques since
>>             you rarely get
>>                 perfect results with either method.

>>
>>                 All these methods ultimately use layer masks, which
>>             is a much better
>>                 way to combine photos than cutting and pasting since
>>             you can tweak
>>                 what is transparent or not back and both without
>>             having to commit to
>>                 a certain part of an image like you do with cutting
>>             and pasting.

>>
>>                 Brian Cluff

>>
>>
>>                 On 01/07/2016 02:58 PM, Michael Havens wrote:

>>
>>                     I found a way to super impose an image but it
>>                 looks tacky.
>>                     The method I learned was to open both files and
>>                 then to select the
>>                     image you want to put on the other with
>>                 fuzzytool. I found that
>>                     didn't work so I used the path tool. Well I cut
>>                 the image out but
>>                     the paste doesn't look good. It is out of scale.
>>                 For the purposes
>>                     I need WHat ithe best way to cut a house out and
>>                 put it on a blue sky?

>>
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>>                     :-)~MIKE~(-:

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