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Author: Shawn Badger
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To: michael, Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: Re: Live streaming server
It is for work and yes I will be taking the stream off the camera via
network. The problem is the camera can only support so many connections
(around 4) but I may need to feed as many as 50 off the same camera. To
also complicate things the camera is only accessible over a VPN with
limited bandwidth so even if the camera could support 50 streams the
bandwidth wouldn't be there.

On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Michael Butash <> wrote:

> Ah, different media. I guess people do watch video stuff.
>
> You talking personal or business?
>
> Yes, done some with like digital signage, live video feeds, etc. I'm not
> sure if any non-commercial encoders out there, but we used an appliance
> solution from Wowza that could at a mega corp customer of mine. I think
> they were (sadly) still using a windoze or mac box for the encoding for the
> raw video feed, but we did that for town hall effect, throwing up on tv's
> around the various offices, etc. We did with unicast and multicast
> internally across our backbone using various url's, dmz replication for
> external use, etc.
>
> The wowza servers were linux appliances that seemed pretty nice for
> commercial, the guy running them was a linux guy too so he'd have told me
> if they sucked, and he was hacking on them to do other stuff with support
> from the company.
>
> Don't ever deal with video transport muxing, but vlc is likely your best
> open/free solution. If it can attach to an RTSP feed, it might be able to
> serve it as well, but something needs to encode video (hardware/software)
> and feed it via some streaming protocol, native rtsp would be good.
>
> The video guy there did have some high-end adapters for his high-end video
> camera (long forgotten brands) that would supposedly network rtsp feed
> direct over wifi from the camera, and he did use it, but not sure how
> production it was. Have something like wowza servers to consume that feed
> and absorb/reproduce via mcast/unicast to others. Getting dumb wifi
> dongles, apple tv's, etc on an enterprise network, or talking internally to
> network resources was always an issue.
>
> If a camera *can* network, it *should* provide a video feed I'd think, and
> everything seems network enabled these days. Expecting or asking the likes
> of sony or cannon to comprehend networking services can at times can likely
> be, daunting.
>
> There should be something out there, I know there are dnla transcoders
> that can absorb other streams (rtsp?), like fuppes and a few others I
> forget.
>
> -mb
>
>
>
> On 09/08/2015 03:59 PM, Shawn Badger wrote:
>
> Pulseaudio would work if I was doing sound, but I'm doing video and
> ironically no audio.
>
> Thanks though
>
> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Michael Butash <> wrote:
>
>> Pulseaudio can handle this to some extents without too much work, but
>> careful, the networking and other encroaching processes will cause the
>> real-time nature to be quirky. I used to do this to some extent of
>> success, using my ubuntu media server to stream audio from other hosts at
>> it via multicast or unicast. Tends to stutter by default as a habit, but
>> at the time I *was* using it on a 400mhz ppc imac with ubuntu as the player
>> source. What could go wrong.
>>
>> Some audio chips are better than others too, ymmv there.
>>
>> Best thing is a dedicated box doing little else, but pulse with their rtp
>> sink can do much of this, but you'll need to tweak with it some, giving it
>> a real-time kernel, setting the priority of the devices, processes, setting
>> pulse to do rt, etc.
>>
>> There are some people working around things like this on a raspberry pi
>> with some of their spi audio chips that don't suck like the built-in ones.
>> Have to use real-time on those, but it works it seems. Was going to do
>> this for using pi's in audio distribution around my house as a pet project.
>>
>> Pulse is pretty cool for that, I use pavucontrol to mux streams with it.
>> You can do some interesting things patching like with jack actually if you
>> toggle a few options, like exposing monitor sinks. I have some security
>> camers with 2 way audio on them, but use a horrid active-x based interface
>> to use it. I redirect the mic audio sink of the xp box pulse to a monitor
>> of the output of my audio card, so I'll stream music that way around the
>> house for giggles, and annoy my birds back.
>>
>> -mb
>>
>>
>> On 09/08/2015 02:41 PM, Shawn Badger wrote:
>>
>> I am looking for a way to stream an RTSP stream to a bunch of people
>> internally, so kind of a locally hosted live CDN. I have looked into
>> trying it with VLC but it seems to only stream files.
>> Here are a couple of the base requiremnets that I need to meet:
>>
>> 1. locally hosted
>> 2. CLI to add/remove stream or just control
>> 3. a single connection to the original stream
>>
>>
>> Does anyone know of a way to do this?
>>
>>
>>
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