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Author: Michael Butash
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Subject: Re: xorg: Maximum number of clients reached





Hah, I thought about that, matrox and
      their old crappy pci cards with many display ports.  They never
      supported linux for anything, nor did anything 3d to save their
      life with any performance, even under windoze xp, so I don't
      expect they'd like any sort of modern compositor which any linux
      is hell-bent to insist on.


      I was eyeing the nvs line, as those kept turning up under ebay
      searches for quadro's at a not insane price, but seems for mosaic
      mode you need keplers, most only had 3-4 ports on each, which is
      what amd's eyefiniti feature does.  I can get asus amd cards with
      6 ports still, without the insane "workstation" price, if only
      their drivers didn't suck so much.  I think even amd gave up on
      selling overpriced firegl cards, but somehow nvidia still thinks
      the world is their oyster.


      If I weren't so spoiled by devices of my own creation, I'd
      probably just back to 2-3 displays for stability, but I enjoy the
      stereo vision of wrap-around monitors, even if it does bring out
      my ADHD.


      -mb



      On 06/13/2015 11:53 PM, Stephen Partington wrote:



I think their consumer cards and quadros are limited
        to 2 displays. And the nvs line is built for 4. Now depending on
        what your system has available you could go with 3 cheaper
        desktop cards and run them that way. Makes me wonder if Matrox
        is still around doing their thing or not. 

On Jun 13, 2015 11:43 PM, "Michael
        Butash" <
>
        wrote:



Interesting note (imho), I went digging around nvidia's
              site today, trying to familiarize myself with their line
              of overpriced video cards aka quadro's.  What I found was
              most of their website doesn't render or work properly,
              half the links were broken, half their pdf's didn't
              download, and in general looks like something a 10 year
              old put together (or me, meh for aesthetics).  Wow, you'd
              think they could afford some competent web developers at
              least.


              Sadly seems every card that can do "mosaic" mode,
              including sli to achieve nvidia's qualifications to
              support sli were $500+ used on ebay, needing multiple
              cards of them, in the kepler (K) line of cards or better
              to achieve.  I guess it's one of those ymmv/"get what you
              pay for" sort of things to support what I don't
              necessarily expect should cost me $1000+ to support my 6
              displays, and really not sure even that is any
              better/worse than AMD's support until I see it.


              Seeing as no one at AMD gives a real darn about real linux
              support (hark! yet another COD windoze game came out with
              broken dx rendering, support!), it might be worth the
              price, but the childish/broken website from nvidia makes
              me loathe to want to invest there either, figuring I'll
              see the same brokenness I see with amd.


              -mb



              On 06/12/2015 06:45 PM, Stephen Partington wrote:



I need to install and check.
On Jun 12, 2015 4:20 PM, "Michael
                Butash" <
>

                wrote:



Stephen, out of curiosity, what does your
                      xrandr show as a max framebuffer size on your
                      quadro?


                      mb@host:~$ xrandr | grep maximum

                      Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 11520 x 1200,
                      maximum 16384 x 16384


                      This was a big limiter for me, in the past I
                      couldn't figure out why my old ATI 5800 card with
                      6 ports wouldn't support a full, single
                      framebuffer, but was internally limited to
                      8192x8192, with the 6xxx+ supporting 16384x16384. 
                      Xorg wasn't too forthcoming with that info, and it
                      was prior to xrandr support in their drivers, so
                      totally left me scratching my head until
                      escalating with AMD support to an engineer with a
                      clue that told me that.


                      With the advent of 4k displays, they still seem
                      limited to that, which means I can only do 4x wide
                      until vendors give to open that up.


                      Thanks!


                      -mb



                      On 06/12/2015 03:55 PM, Michael Butash wrote:



Next time I have an absolute need to upgrade
                        hardware, I plan on avoiding ati/amd at all
                        costs.  After dealing with them for a good 5
                        years as the only real viable option to run my
                        displays, only to be wrought with constant
                        disappointment, problems, and frustration. 
                        Buying highly overpriced quadro cards might be
                        money well spent at this point, but I still
                        despise nvidia that they're really little other
                        than rebranded, and marked-up normal video cards
                        with driver-locked (to bios-id) features.


                        That said, going to set up some ebay agents to
                        look for decent quadro's to snipe.  I had good
                        luck getting my last few amd cards that way on
                        the cheap, gotta love jbidwatcher for cheating
                        some other person with a last-second bid.


                        Thanks as always for the input Stephen.


                        -mb



                        On 06/12/2015 03:20 PM, Stephen Partington
                        wrote:




I
                            have almost given up on ATI, if i want just
                            multiple screens i would look into the
                            Quadro NVS cards. Such as the NVS 510 or the
                            K1200. They may be very proprietary to get
                            running, but my success with Nvidia cards in
                            both linux and windows really makes it
                            worthwhile. These cards will only do a
                            single monitor, but they are cheap enough to
                            run 2 cards with reasonable usability. or
                            one NVS and one more Gamer friendly card.







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