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Author: Stephen Partington
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To: Main PLUG discussion list, nathan
Subject: Re: Article / Data warehouse cms software
I was looking at the WordPress knowledge base plugin is pretty neat.
On May 26, 2015 6:58 PM, "Nathan England" <> wrote:

> Thanks for all the input. The articles that are going to be put into the
> system currently only exist on paper. Which I have no plans of scanning in.
> These will be lovingly typed in, mostly by myself. Many of the articles
> will have references to each other, so wikimedia's easy ability to link
> between other documents is important to me. I want it simple.
>
> This is definitely one of those issues where I really want the technology
> to just help me do what I want to do and not turn into a major development
> project or something that requires more time to maintain than the system
> itself for me to use.
>
> I just want to type in my documents and be able to search and link between
> them.
>
> If it helps at all, this is personal bible study notes and sermons from
> the last 10 years. I don't want to lose any of it and I want to expand on a
> lot of it. I also want to begin typing up a complete commentary as detailed
> as possible. I really want to take advantage of the inter-linking between
> documents.
>
> Thanks again for all your thoughts!
>
>
>
>
> On 2015-05-26 17:33, Mark Phillips wrote:
>
> I also looked at dspace. It has lots of bells and whistles for
> professional archivists, especially in the workflow for adding something to
> the repository. I am not sure if one can bypass any of the steps. It was
> too complicated for my needs. It meets all sorts of standards for archiving
> documents, but my project does not need to be standards compliant. Mayan
> also has a workflow associated with adding something to the repository, but
> it seems to be much more streamlined and appropriate for my archiving
> needs. Dspace is also a Java/Tomcat application, so a bit heavier than I
> wanted to host for my project. Just my 2 cents based on a fair amount of
> research in this area. I am by no means an expert!
>
>
> Mark
>
> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Stephen Partington <>
> wrote:
>
>> Well if you are looking to store a digital library you can consider
>> something like D-Space
>>
>> http://www.dspace.org/
>>
>> It is a bit finicky to set up but it does work on revision management and
>> actually managing and maintaining your data. do some reading before you
>> decide to try it. it is not for the feint of heart.
>>
>> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Mark Phillips <
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Nathan,
>>>
>>> I am in the same boat. I have lots of scaned documents (pdfs, tiffs,
>>> jpegs, etc.) to tag and make searchable. I tried a wiki and did not have
>>> much luck. I stumbled upon mayan edms (http://www.mayan-edms.com/) and
>>> it looks pretty good. It is a django based open source project for storing,
>>> tagging, and searching documents such as I have. It also does ocr as
>>> documents are imported, so the searches cover both meta tags and document
>>> content. It keeps a modification history for all documents. It can use
>>> SQLite, MySql, postgress, etc. as the db. Django is a pretty simple
>>> framework to understand. The only downside is that the community support is
>>> sparse and the docs are also sparse. I am just now looking at the code to
>>> see how well it is documented.
>>>
>>> Most of the archival software I looked at are Java based, and I prefer
>>> Python because for this small project it uses less resources.
>>>
>>> Let me know if you plan to use it. Perhaps we could help each other
>>> understand the project.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Stephen Partington <
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> If you know wordpress i would stick with it. additionally there are
>>>> plugins for wiki as well.
>>>>
>>>> https://wordpress.org/plugins/search.php?q=wiki
>>>>
>>>> and knowledge base functionality. (might have to investigate these for
>>>> my own use)
>>>>
>>>> https://wordpress.org/plugins/search.php?type=term&q=knowledgebase
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Matt Graham <>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2015-05-25 21:08, Nathan England wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a project to store a lot of data. Articles, stories, and
>>>>>>> encyclopedia type stuff. My first thought was to use a wiki
>>>>>>> (wikimedia) as it makes the contents easily searchable, but what
>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>> other cms systems like wordpress?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wordpress is generally more "centralized", as it puts the most
>>>>> recent blog posts up on the main page. Whether you'd use it or a wiki
>>>>> really depends on what the users will be doing since there are things wikis
>>>>> do better than wordpress. The default wordpress search seems to work OK.
>>>>> Writing internal links using wordpress is more difficult than doing that in
>>>>> a wiki.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am not familiar with wikimedia and its maintenance requirements.
>>>>>> I can say that WordPress does not require a lot of attention.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This depends greatly on the users. Setting up a wiki and running it
>>>>> is not really difficult or resource-consuming if you don't have many users
>>>>> and none of them are actively trying to destroy the site. If you have a
>>>>> bunch of active users, you're going to need moderators and handle the
>>>>> inevitable flame wars. They come out with a new version of wordpress every
>>>>> couple of months, and updating usually doesn't break anything or take a lot
>>>>> of time. If you have comments enabled on wordpress, you will need to
>>>>> periodically get rid of the spam since there are many people out there
>>>>> comment-spamming wordpress sites.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you are doing something very heavy duty Drupal might be a
>>>>>> candidate.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd say "avoid drupal unless you know you need it" but that's just MHO.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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>>>>> But only Light too dim for us to see.
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>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> Stephen
>>>>
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