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Author: Michael Havens
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Subject: Re: python
I do have a concern though; the programs are written in Python3. In 'The
Hard Way' the author is very adament about NOT using Python3. Should I
worry about that? How would I go about installing Python3 with apt-get?
2.7.6 is what is installed on my system now.

:-)~MIKE~(-:

On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 1:49 PM, Michael Havens <> wrote:

> yea James. thanks. I wish they had a free version but i suppose $50 isn't
> bad for a text book?
>
> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 1:21 PM, James Dugger <>
> wrote:
>
>> If you are new to programming look at
>> "Head First Programming: A learner 's guide to programming using the
>> Python language" by David Griffiths and Paul Barry.
>>
>> The Head First books take a different approach to learning. I gave this
>> book to my 10 year old son who used it to learn programming and Python.
>> On Apr 5, 2015 12:24 PM, "Michael Havens" <> wrote:
>>
>>> No problem. I am doing it (badly) "... the hard way."
>>>
>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 12:21 PM, James Mcphee <> wrote:
>>>
>>>> sorry for not responding sooner, michael. everyone learns in their own
>>>> way. if a course is not for you, I can at least point you at how I pick up
>>>> new languages. what works for me is the old "scratch an itch" process.
>>>> find something that you want to do, and do it with a language. start
>>>> small, maybe checking your email or twitter. it's a matter of getting some
>>>> inertia behind you.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Michael Havens <>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Please expand. How would you recommend I go about to learn this (not
>>>>> in a formal setting)? I can not afford to take classes and because of a
>>>>> head injury doubt I could complete it successfully anyways.
>>>>>
>>>>> In your list I notice you do not mention learning any programming
>>>>> language. Why is that?
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you mean by "OS shell integration"? Is that saying I need to
>>>>> learn BASH as opposed to Python?
>>>>>
>>>>> "string operations must mean BASH....
>>>>>
>>>>> when you say "regular expressions" is this a good resource here
>>>>> <http://www.aboutlinux.info/2006/01/learn-how-to-use-regular-expressions.html>?
>>>>> Would I use this with BASH or Python or both?
>>>>>
>>>>> I notice that in http://learnpythonthehardway.org/ there is a section
>>>>> that covers using Python with websites so handling and forming automated
>>>>> web requests is probably covered in more advanced Python tutorials.
>>>>>
>>>>> So to sum it up I think I need to learn Python and BASH. Is this
>>>>> correct? I also need to learn XML, JSON (what do you mean when you say
>>>>> "from xml.dom import minidom ; import json") and SQL
>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>
>>>>> For all the pen testing and hacker stuff I went through (7 some odd
>>>>> years ago), here's what you'll want to know how to do, in approximate order
>>>>> of priority:
>>>>>
>>>>> xml and json parsing (from xml.dom import minidom ; import json)
>>>>> connecting to and using a database (learn enough SQL to be able to
>>>>> navigate around one here too), learning sqlalchemy will be enough to land
>>>>> you a job in the field
>>>>> OS shell integration (import os)
>>>>> string operations
>>>>> regular expressions (import re)
>>>>> handling and forming automated web requests
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> James McPhee
>>>>
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