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Author: Michael Havens
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Subject: Re: python
cool.... my igorance just oozes! No?

:-)~MIKE~(-:

On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 2:28 PM, James Mcphee <> wrote:

> it's a library of python
>
> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Michael Havens <> wrote:
>
>> so how well do I need to know python to learn sqlachemy? or else can I
>> learn it independently?
>>
>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 11:25 AM, Todd Millecam <> wrote:
>>
>>> Naw, but I took a telecommute job and am looking to move down there in
>>> November now.
>>>
>>> For all the pen testing and hacker stuff I went through (7 some odd
>>> years ago), here's what you'll want to know how to do, in approximate order
>>> of priority:
>>>
>>> xml and json parsing (from xml.dom import minidom ; import json)
>>> connecting to and using a database (learn enough SQL to be able to
>>> navigate around one here too), learning sqlalchemy will be enough to land
>>> you a job in the field
>>> OS shell integration (import os)
>>> string operations
>>> regular expressions (import re)
>>> handling and forming automated web requests
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Michael Havens <>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes... the pen-testing stuff I was talking about earlier. I am just so
>>>> flighty I don't know what to do. I think I will learn Python as I think
>>>> that will be good for the easy stuff to the advanced stuff.... I'll worry
>>>> about the expert stuff if I ever get that far.
>>>> Are you in Phoenix yet>
>>>>
>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Todd Millecam <>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, python has basically become a wrapper for C now, so there's a
>>>>> lot of different uses for it. What are you learning it for? Job? That
>>>>> pen-testing stuff you were doing earlier?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Michael Havens <>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Found a good reference.
>>>>>> http://docs.python-guide.org/en/latest/intro/learning/
>>>>>> It gives many books of varying levels.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Todd Millecam <>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Learning Python, published by O'Reilly has a picture of a mouse on
>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>> If you're more familiar with programming, Dive into python is the
>>>>>>> gold standard.
>>>>>>> If you're looking for the more "popular" way of programming, there's
>>>>>>> Introduction to Computing and Programming in Python published by
>>>>>>> Pearson--but that uses Jython, which should be avoided at all costs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I also have a power-point presentation meant for the absolute newbie
>>>>>>> that you can find on my site:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://tyggna.com/downloads/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Michael Havens <>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can you recommend a good book for the absolute beginner? (besides
>>>>>>>> saying to google it)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
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