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Author: Keith Smith
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Subject: Re: wargames

I was curious to find out what might be out there so I googled "c
programming tutorial".

On 2015-03-03 00:38, Michael Havens wrote:
> It seems to be very good. How did you find it? I hope you it wasn't as
> easy as gogling 'Learn C'. If so I could have done that.
>
> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 10:17 PM, Keith Smith
> <> wrote:
>
>> This looks interesting.
>>
>> http://www.tutorialspoint.com/cprogramming/ [1]
>>
>> On 2015-03-02 21:03, Michael Havens wrote:
>> any recommendations as to what to learn from? anyone know of a good
>> online resource for learning C? Look at what overthewire.org [2]
>> [2] is
>>
>> making me do! (at my choice of course)
>>
>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 7:20 PM, Keith Smith
>> <> wrote:
>>
>> Object Oriented Programming - from the Internet : Object-oriented
>> programming (OOP) is a programming language model organized around
>> objects rather than "actions" and data rather than logic.
>> Historically, a program has been viewed as a logical procedure that
>> takes input data, processes it, and produces output data.
>>
>> Most modern languages are capable of Object Oriented Programming.
>> OOP will make your life simpler if you plan to build any complex
>> applications.
>>
>> C is procedural, which is easier to learn.  C++ is object
>> oriented.  Java is object oriented.  I have not looked at Python
>> so I cannot comment. PHP is object oriented, however most use it
>> for
>> scripting (old school PHP).
>>
>> Bash looks to be procedural.
>>
>> Start with C then C++ then Bash.  If you need Python learn it.  I
>> think assembler is always a good idea for someone wanting to learn
>> programming.  You will be exposed to registers, interrupts, and
>> math at the CPU level, which is a real learning experience.
>>
>> After all that I would learn database normalization. Database
>> normalization may not be all that important if you are going to use
>> programming to automate and to get info for gaming. If you plan any
>> serious projects that require a DB, then database normalization is
>> very important.
>>
>> On 2015-03-02 19:51, Michael Havens wrote:
>>
>> OOP would be python? Okay. this is what I'm thinking; learn BASH
>> and
>> then C and then Python. Is C and C++ that different?
>>
>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Keith Smith
>> <> wrote:
>>
>> I learned how to program at the junior college and the
>> university. 
>> I started in academia in 1983 with punch cards. From my experience
>> I
>> would recommend learning how to program by learning straight old C.
>> If your really apply yourself and really learn C you will have a
>> better go of things when working with other languages. Assembler is
>> a good idea as well.  You may never use it however it will give
>> you
>> some interesting insight. Stay away from Object Oriented
>> Programming
>> until you master C. Then learn OOP.
>>
>> On 2015-03-01 23:47, Michael Havens wrote:
>>
>> I am tackling a hard task. I was talking with someone on IRC and
>> this
>> is part of the exchange we had:
>>
>> <bmike1> I've decided I need to learn scripting before I do the
>> other
>> wargames
>> <bmike1> what do you think? BASH or Python?
>> <doskop> both have their applications
>> <doskop> although I hardly use advanced bash scripts to solve
>> challenges
>> <doskop> so I'd go for python
>> <doskop> if you're interested in the other overthewire
>> wargames...
>> understanding php is pretty much a requirements for natas
>>
>> <doskop> for the other OTW wargames, some understanding of C, C++
>> and/or assembly is very useful
>>
>> So I need to learn a few things.
>> Does anyone have any personal experience with learning any of
>> these on
>> your own or have you gone through a book and thought, 'Gosh, I
>> wish
>> they would have taught me that way.' If so please, share with the
>> class.
>>
>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
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