This is your localhost or internal to the machine nic. It has no effect
here.
On Feb 4, 2015 12:28 AM, "Michael Torres" <
matorres124@gmail.com> wrote:
> here is my lo file
>
> DEVICE=lo
> IPADDR=127.0.0.1
> NETMASK=255.0.0.0
> NETWORK=127.0.0.0
> #If you are having problems with gated making 127.0.0.0/8 a martian,
> # you can change this to something else (255.255.255.255, for example)
> BROADCAST=127.255.255.255
> ONBOOT=yes
> NAME=loopback
>
>
> I dont know what "this" is referring to "NETWORK" or "BROADCAST"
>
> Ill try BROADCAST first....
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 12:22 AM, Kevin Fries <kevin@fries-biro.com> wrote:
>
>> Ok, here is what I see.
>>
>> Your interface appears to be trying to do a DHCP configure. But, here is
>> your problem... the adapter already had one... and Windows got it. You are
>> in Bridge, not NAT mode, so Linux can not have its own IP, it will get
>> rejected by the host server.
>>
>> Let me think a sec on this.
>>
>> Kevin
>> On Feb 4, 2015 12:16 AM, "Michael Torres" <matorres124@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> ...devserver NetworkManager[561]: <warn> (enp0s3): DHCPv4 request timed
>>> out.
>>> ...devserver NetworkManager[561]: <info> (enp0s3): canceled DHCP
>>> transaction, DHCP client pid 2138
>>> ...devserver NetworkManager[561]: <info> Activation (enp0s3) Stage 4 0f
>>> 5 (IPv4 Configure Timeout) scheduled...
>>> ...devserver NetworkManager[561]: <info> Activation (enp0s3) Stage 4 0f
>>> 5 (IPv4 Configure Timeout) started...
>>> ...devserver NetworkManager[561]: <info> Activation (enp0s3) Stage 4 0f
>>> 5 (IPv4 Configure Timeout) complete...
>>> ...devserver network[1987]: Bringing up interface enp0s3: Error: Timeout
>>> 90 sec expired.
>>> ...devserver network[1987]: [FAILED]
>>> ...devserver systemd[1]: network.service: control process exoited,
>>> code=exited satus=1
>>> ...devserver systemd[1]: Failed to start LSB: Bring up/down networking.
>>> -- Subject: Unit network.service has failed
>>> -- Defined-By: systemd
>>> -- Support: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
>>> --
>>> -- Unit network.service has failed
>>>
>>>
>>> This may show the problem, but it shows what I already know. I went to
>>> that site "freedesktop" and search for key words that were in this
>>> error......, nothing.
>>>
>>> So, if this erorrs tells you something that I cannot readily see, I am
>>> all ears (or eyes, as this is email...)
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 12:00 AM, Kevin Fries <kevin@fries-biro.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bingo, Huston we found the problem.
>>>>
>>>> The old scripts are using systemctl so for backwards compatability.
>>>> Look in the journal and it should tell you what is wrong.
>>>>
>>>> I think the command off the top of my head is something like
>>>>
>>>> #journalctl --unit=network
>>>>
>>>> Kevin
>>>> On Feb 3, 2015 11:53 PM, "Michael Torres" <matorres124@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> OK, when I start/stop the network service, I use the following
>>>>> command....
>>>>>
>>>>> [root@devserver]# /etc/init.d/network stop
>>>>> Stopping network (via systemctrl)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [root@devserver]# /etc/init.d/network start
>>>>> Starting network (via systemctrl)
>>>>>
>>>>> Then I run the commands that you gave earlier after starting fails...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is the result..
>>>>>
>>>>> network.service loaded failed failed LSB: Bring up/down networking
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 11:47 PM, Kevin Fries <kevin@fries-biro.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If your interface has no IP, you can't communicate out to anywhere,
>>>>>> and we are back to the conversation about starting and enabling your
>>>>>> network service.
>>>>>> On Feb 3, 2015 11:45 PM, "Michael Torres" <matorres124@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thats the point.... I dont have an IP address...there is nothing
>>>>>>> that I put to scan it. My NIC was allowing it when I was at Starbucks..
>>>>>>> That is why I think its my router, as such isnt the router that assigns IP
>>>>>>> address to the network when using DHCP?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 11:39 PM, Kevin Fries <kevin@fries-biro.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ok, down to two possibilities.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nmap is a scanner. It is trying to identify your VM and probe for
>>>>>>>> open ports.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When you scanned by name... it did not understand that name. Your
>>>>>>>> router is external to all of this, and should not be involved at all.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Try nmap by IP address.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If that still results in nothing, add a virtual network via VMware
>>>>>>>> or VBox. Next add a new virtual network adapter to your VM, and connect it
>>>>>>>> to the new network. This should be a private network between host and
>>>>>>>> client. Config your interface in the VM. This will resolve your problem.
>>>>>>>> In this case, your NIC is not allowing traffic to go out, then back in to
>>>>>>>> itself. The traffic is almost certainly not going to your router then back.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>>>> Kevin
>>>>>>>> On Feb 3, 2015 10:41 PM, "Michael Torres" <matorres124@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> netstat -plant
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> liastening on ports 25 and 22 both for IPv4 nad IPv6
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Result from the nmap(windows version)
>>>>>>>>> Starting Nmap 6.47 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2015-02-03 22:36 US
>>>>>>>>> Mountain Standard Time
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> NSE: Loaded 118 scripts for scanning.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> NSE: Script Pre-scanning.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> NSE: Script Post-scanning.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Read data files from: C:\Program Files (x86)\Nmap
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nmap done: 0 IP addresses (0 hosts up) scanned in 4.20 seconds
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Raw packets sent: 0 (0B) | Rcvd: 0 (0B)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Failed to resolve "devserver".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> WARNING: No targets were specified, so 0 hosts scanned.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I would ahave asusmed the the above results as the dhcp server is
>>>>>>>>> not generating a IPv4 address
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> so...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1) The netstat does not show the binding to port 21... this
>>>>>>>>> means SSHD did not start.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am guessing port 22 is OK
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2) netstat shows SSHD, but the firewall is not allowing it.
>>>>>>>>> Open the firewall
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Firewall is already disabled
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 3) netstat shows SSHD, the firewall is open, but you still don't
>>>>>>>>> see the port open via nmap.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 3a) if you see other ports open, I would look at the Windows
>>>>>>>>> firewall
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Windows firewall allowed it on a Public network (startbuck), so
>>>>>>>>> why not allow it at my home
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 3b) If you don't see any ports open, you have two options here.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 3b1) Make sure your NIC (from the Windows side) is in
>>>>>>>>> promiscuous mode.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> dont know how to do that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 3b2) If it is already in promiscuous mode, then this may
>>>>>>>>> not work in this configuration. In this case, try adding a private network
>>>>>>>>> on a second NIC, and communicate with the VM over that.
>>>>>>>>> Ill try to connect to my ethernet adpater and see if that is it,
>>>>>>>>> maybe its my wireless adapter....
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 10:22 PM, Kevin Fries <kevin@fries-biro.com
>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ok, sorry, I misunderstood.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nmap could be your friend here. Install it on your Windows
>>>>>>>>>> machine. It will install the graphical tool automatically in Windows.
>>>>>>>>>> Point this at your VM, and do a "intense scan"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Next, on the Linux VM, do a
>>>>>>>>>> # netstat -plant
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Zenmap/Nmap will tell you what ports it can see open from its
>>>>>>>>>> side of the link. The netstat command will tell you which ports are opened
>>>>>>>>>> by running software.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Lastly, on the Linux VM, do a
>>>>>>>>>> # ip tables -L
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This will tell you which ports the firewall will allow.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Now, you have a few possibilities:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1) The netstat does not show the binding to port 21... this
>>>>>>>>>> means SSHD did not start.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2) netstat shows SSHD, but the firewall is not allowing it.
>>>>>>>>>> Open the firewall
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 3) netstat shows SSHD, the firewall is open, but you still
>>>>>>>>>> don't see the port open via nmap.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 3a) if you see other ports open, I would look at the Windows
>>>>>>>>>> firewall
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 3b) If you don't see any ports open, you have two options
>>>>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 3b1) Make sure your NIC (from the Windows side) is in
>>>>>>>>>> promiscuous mode.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 3b2) If it is already in promiscuous mode, then this may
>>>>>>>>>> not work in this configuration. In this case, try adding a private network
>>>>>>>>>> on a second NIC, and communicate with the VM over that.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Let me how it goes.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Kevin
>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 3, 2015 9:58 PM, "Michael Torres" <matorres124@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Well, no, I didnt issue any commands other than
>>>>>>>>>>> /path/to/network/script/network start /path/to/network/script/network stop
>>>>>>>>>>> and the commands to disable firewall/SELINUX
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I know I didnt use any systemctrl commands., but I tried to run
>>>>>>>>>>> the commands that you just provided and nothing happened. I should
>>>>>>>>>>> probably say that I know that IPv6 is enalbed and have network connection
>>>>>>>>>>> to the net work and I can ping yahoo.com etc..... I just cant
>>>>>>>>>>> SSH(putty) to the server.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This all leads me to beleive that there is a configuration in my
>>>>>>>>>>> router that is not allowing me to get a IPv4 address. Does the default
>>>>>>>>>>> gateway have to be a certain number? I have manually configured that IP on
>>>>>>>>>>> my router a long time ago, but even then I had Bridged networking working
>>>>>>>>>>> correctly.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 9:48 PM, Kevin Fries <
>>>>>>>>>>> kevin@fries-biro.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Your network is probably not getting started. The enp0p3 is
>>>>>>>>>>>> the name of an interface started almost definantly by systemd, not the old
>>>>>>>>>>>> RHEL way. This is likely why the networking-scripts didn't work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> When you were at Starbucks, you likely did a systemctl start on
>>>>>>>>>>>> the interface. Look in your history for it. If you find it, issue the
>>>>>>>>>>>> same command again. If your interface comes up correctly, reissue the
>>>>>>>>>>>> command once again, substituting enable for start. This second command is
>>>>>>>>>>>> similar to a chkconfig command.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Let me know how that works.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Kevin
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 3, 2015 9:13 PM, "Michael Torres" <matorres124@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The result of that command is:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0 loaded units listed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I ran a what it suggested: systemctl list-unit-files
>>>>>>>>>>>>> majority of everything says "static" but some are "enabled"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> or "disabled"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> again, because I cannot copy or capture a screen shot, is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> there a specific list item that you need to see?"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 8:44 PM, Kevin Fries <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> kevin@fries-biro.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> # systemctl --failed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And post the results
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kevin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 3, 2015 8:37 PM, "Michael Torres" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> matorres124@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arrghh....yes its configured. But I am having an issue
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting the cat /etc/sysconfig/network-script/ifcfg-enp0s3..........because
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I cant connect, I cant ssh in to use outty so I can copy using my mouse.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I tried taking a screen shot, but VBox for some reason wont display on on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the "print screen"command.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is there a particular setting you are looking for? again,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the file is configured and it is reading it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 8:15 PM, Stephen M <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smelheim85@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't remember if this is a problem in centos 7 as it was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in 6. But check to make sure the eth0 is configured. But yes a print out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of ifconfig inside vox would be great.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 3, 2015 8:07 PM, "Michael Torres" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> matorres124@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have an problem that I cannot seem to figure out.....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am trying to use "Bridged" networking in Virtual Box to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a CentOS 7 minimum install distro that I want to use for my development
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> server.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have used Bridged networking in the past and never had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any issues but that was with older versions of CentOS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The issue.... DHCP will not assign a IPv4 address to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> server.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here is the weird part... I was at startbucks and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually got it to work! (Please, hold the "Just use it at starbucks then"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comments..I know....)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here is the process I used...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Installed a fresh CentOS 7 on VBox
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -While on NAT, I performed "yum update" so my server was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fresh with the latest
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Disabled SELinux
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Disabled the Firewall
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Shut down server to reconfigure the adapter to "Bridged"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -used adapter type of "Intel Pro 1000 MT Desktop (82540EM)"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -set it to "Promiscuous Mode"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -restart the server
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Again, at Starbucks it assigned a IP address, so this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> leads me to believe that the issue is with a configuration on my router.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am not very good at networking, so any help would be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you need error messages or other output, let me know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (and possibly the command as I don't know networking that well other than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "ifconfig")
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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