The first is a Radeon HD 5450 with 2G of RAM
The second is a Radeon X1300 with 256M of RAM
Either card should play video fine, but your current NVidia 6150 LE embedded chip should as well, provided system RAM isn't overloaded.
The first is unquestionably a better card, but if your CPU is at 50% when *idle*, you're dealing with a very underpowered machine, so it may be that neither is going to resolve the issues.
It's entirely possible your overall system just isn't fast enough to play AVCHD video.
You should probably check that you're using a nouveau driver that supports the NVidia 6150 (C51/NV40 chipset) before doing much else.
You may also want to check the BIOS settings to ensure you have enough of the system RAM set aside for the GPU.
You might want to poke around a bit to find out what's using 50% of the CPU when you're not playing a video before spending the money for a new video card.
If you're sure the drivers are updated, and you've verified that the system isn't running something else that's using all the CPU, then you might benefit from a discrete video card.
Basically, the Radeon X1300 will probably help a little bit, and the Radeon HD 5450 would help a good bit more, but it may be that neither is enough to overcome the limitations of the Athlon 64 X2 main system CPU.
On 01/05/2015 11:30 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
> okay... I looked on ebay and I see one:
>
> 2GB Dell Dimension C521 9200c 5100c XPS 200 210 Low Profile Slim PC Video
> Card
> <http://www.ebay.com/itm/2GB-Dell-Dimension-C521-9200c-5100c-XPS-200-210-Low-Profile-Slim-PC-Video-Card-/160815335336?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item25715747a8>
>
> for over $60 and another:
>
> NEW Dell Dimension C521 9200C 5100C XPS 210 Slim 256MB PCI-E DMS-59 Video
> Card
> <http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Dell-Dimension-C521-9200C-5100C-XPS-210-Slim-256MB-PCI-E-DMS-59-Video-Card-/390862072279?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item5b0131e9d7>
>
> for under $25. As you can tell I'm not a gamerso I bet the cheaper one is
> good enough.
>
> the current videos inf (obtained with lspci) is00:00.0 RAM memory: NVIDIA
> Corporation C51 Host Bridge (rev a2)
> 00:00.1 RAM memory: NVIDIA Corporation C51 Memory Controller 0 (rev a2)
> 00:00.2 RAM memory: NVIDIA Corporation C51 Memory Controller 1 (rev a2)
> 00:00.3 RAM memory: NVIDIA Corporation C51 Memory Controller 5 (rev a2)
> 00:00.4 RAM memory: NVIDIA Corporation C51 Memory Controller 4 (rev a2)
> 00:00.5 RAM memory: NVIDIA Corporation C51 Host Bridge (rev a2)
> 00:00.6 RAM memory: NVIDIA Corporation C51 Memory Controller 3 (rev a2)
> 00:00.7 RAM memory: NVIDIA Corporation C51 Memory Controller 2 (rev a2)
> 00:02.0 PCI bridge: NVIDIA Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge (rev a1)
> 00:03.0 PCI bridge: NVIDIA Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge (rev a1)
> 00:04.0 PCI bridge: NVIDIA Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge (rev a1)
> 00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation C51 [GeForce 6150 LE]
> (rev a2)
> 00:09.0 RAM memory: NVIDIA Corporation MCP51 Host Bridge (rev a2)
> 00:0a.0 ISA bridge: NVIDIA Corporation MCP51 LPC Bridge (rev a3)
> 00:0a.1 SMBus: NVIDIA Corporation MCP51 SMBus (rev a3)
> 00:0a.2 RAM memory: NVIDIA Corporation MCP51 Memory Controller 0 (rev a3)
> 00:0b.0 USB controller: NVIDIA Corporation MCP51 USB Controller (rev a3)
> 00:0b.1 USB controller: NVIDIA Corporation MCP51 USB Controller (rev a3)
> 00:0e.0 IDE interface: NVIDIA Corporation MCP51 Serial ATA Controller (rev
> a1)
> 00:0f.0 IDE interface: NVIDIA Corporation MCP51 Serial ATA Controller (rev
> a1)
> 00:10.0 PCI bridge: NVIDIA Corporation MCP51 PCI Bridge (rev a2)
> 00:10.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev
> a2)
>
> So is the cheaper product good enough?
>
> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 11:15 PM, Michael Havens <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> hey.... I found the system monitor. you were correct; the cpu runs at
>> about 50% until I start running a video. At that point usage spikes to
>> 100%. I guess I will need to get a video card with gpu. Can anyone
>> recommend a low-profile card (I think that is what I need).
>>
>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 7:18 PM, Michael Havens <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> yeah? I remember uploading a video that was jumpy to youtube and it
>>> played normally. Does that bit of information narrow the problem?
>>> what is the command to get the monitor up? 'apropos monitor' isn't much
>>> help.
>>>
>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 6:54 PM, Joseph Sinclair <
>>> plug-discussion@stcaz.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mike,
>>>> There are a few probable sources of the behavior you're experiencing:
>>>> 1) You may have a video chip that doesn't have good support in Linux, or
>>>> at least not good enough with respect to video display to handle AVCHD
>>>> video.
>>>> 2) Your computer main CPU may not be up to the task of decoding the
>>>> video in realtime.
>>>> 3) Your disk may not be able to read fast enough to keep the video
>>>> buffer full.
>>>>
>>>> All three possibilities would cause frame drops and skips.
>>>> The Audio playing clean suggests it's not a disk speed issue, rather the
>>>> AVCHD decoder isn't able to keep up on your system. (or, as others have
>>>> suggested, libavcodec might be buggy and need to be updated).
>>>>
>>>> The next thing you might check is that you're running the best available
>>>> video driver for your hardware, as video playback is very heavily dependent
>>>> on good support of the GPU hardware.
>>>>
>>>> You might also try running the system monitor while you play a video,
>>>> and see what ends up taking the most CPU and/or RAM (and which of those
>>>> resources is most heavily loaded).
>>>> If VLC is maxing out your CPU, then it's probably the system unable to
>>>> keep up or a buggy version of libavcodec. If X is maxing out the CPU, then
>>>> it's probably inadequate support for the GPU (X is falling back to swrender
>>>> too much), and looking for better drivers might help.
>>>>
>>>> Whatever the cause, you might be able to play the video on your current
>>>> setup if you first transcode it to something easier for your system to
>>>> handle, perhaps MPEG2 or MPEG4 at 720p. AVCHD is a pretty dense codec, so
>>>> it can be difficult for older systems to play at full framerate.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 01/05/2015 06:21 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
>>>>> vlc is playing audio just fine but the video plays a little, stops,
>>>> jumps
>>>>> ahead a few frames to catch up with the audio then plays a little
>>>> more,
>>>>> then repeats.
>>>>>
>>>>> To get the errors I ran vlc from the terminal:
>>>>>
>>>>> bmike1@c521 ~/Pictures/2013/Peru2013 $ vlc 00004.MTS
>>>>> VLC media player 2.1.4 Rincewind (revision 2.1.4-0-g2a072be)
>>>>> [0x1971118] main libvlc: Running vlc with the default interface. Use
>>>> 'cvlc'
>>>>> to use vlc without interface.
>>>>> "sni-qt/6719" WARN 18:17:00.958 void
>>>>> StatusNotifierItemFactory::connectToSnw() Invalid interface to
>>>> SNW_SERVICE
>>>>> Fontconfig warning: FcPattern object size does not accept value "0"
>>>>> Fontconfig warning: FcPattern object size does not accept value "0"
>>>>> Fontconfig warning: FcPattern object size does not accept value "0"
>>>>> Fontconfig warning: FcPattern object size does not accept value "0"
>>>>> [0x7fbf14001248] main vout display error: Failed to resize display
>>>>> [h264 @ 0x7fbf2cc97000] illegal short term buffer state detected
>>>>> bmike1@c521 ~/Pictures/2013/Peru2013 $
>>>>>
>>>>> and I noticed the third line so I ran that as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> bmike1@c521 ~/Pictures/2013/Peru2013 $ vlc 00004.MTS
>>>>> VLC media player 2.1.4 Rincewind (revision 2.1.4-0-g2a072be)
>>>>> [0x165b118] main libvlc: Running vlc with the default interface. Use
>>>> 'cvlc'
>>>>> to use vlc without interface.
>>>>> "sni-qt/6649" WARN 18:09:38.641 void
>>>>> StatusNotifierItemFactory::connectToSnw() Invalid interface to
>>>> SNW_SERVICE
>>>>> Fontconfig warning: FcPattern object size does not accept value "0"
>>>>> Fontconfig warning: FcPattern object size does not accept value "0"
>>>>> Fontconfig warning: FcPattern object size does not accept value "0"
>>>>> Fontconfig warning: FcPattern object size does not accept value "0"
>>>>> [0x7f1fc8001248] main vout display error: Failed to resize display
>>>>> [h264 @ 0x7f1fdcc96e20] illegal short term buffer state detected
>>>>> bmike1@c521 ~/Pictures/2013/Peru2013 $ cvlc 00004.MTS
>>>>> VLC media player 2.1.4 Rincewind (revision 2.1.4-0-g2a072be)
>>>>> [0x2398e18] dummy interface: using the dummy interface module...
>>>>> Fontconfig warning: FcPattern object size does not accept value "0"
>>>>> Fontconfig warning: FcPattern object size does not accept value "0"
>>>>> Fontconfig warning: FcPattern object size does not accept value "0"
>>>>> Fontconfig warning: FcPattern object size does not accept value "0"
>>>>> [0x7fdb880020e8] main vout display error: Failed to resize display
>>>>> [h264 @ 0x7fdb78c97fc0] illegal short term buffer state detected
>>>>> Fontconfig warning: FcPattern object size does not accept value "0"
>>>>> Fontconfig warning: FcPattern object size does not accept value "0"
>>>>> Fontconfig warning: FcPattern object size does not accept value "0"
>>>>> Fontconfig warning: FcPattern object size does not accept value "0"
>>>>> [0x7fdb78c844b8] main vout display error: Failed to resize display
>>>>> [h264 @ 0x7fdb88c28120] illegal short term buffer state detected
>>>>> [0x7fdb88c277e8] avcodec decoder error: more than 5 seconds of late
>>>> video
>>>>> -> dropping frame (computer too slow ?)
>>>>> [h264 @ 0x7fdb88c28120] reference picture missing during reorder
>>>>> [h264 @ 0x7fdb88c28120] Missing reference picture
>>>>> [h264 @ 0x7fdb88c28120] reference picture missing during reorder
>>>>> [h264 @ 0x7fdb88c28120] Missing reference picture
>>>>> [h264 @ 0x7fdb88c28120] reference picture missing during reorder
>>>>> [h264 @ 0x7fdb88c28120] Missing reference picture
>>>>>
>>>>> and I see the eighth frame from the bottom. It seems my computer is too
>>>>> slow?
>>>>>
>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 6:04 PM, sean <sean.a.ritzler@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> How about you actually tell us what problem you are having? Errors?
>>>>>> On Jan 5, 2015 6:00 PM, "Michael Havens" <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My google search told me to:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> which I did. However immediately after pressing 'enter' remembered
>>>>>>> (thinking I did) installing the extras after installing Mint so I
>>>>>>> <cntrl-c>ed. What should I do? Should I run that command? Why didn't
>>>> the
>>>>>>> extras install after I first installed Mint?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 5:28 PM, Michael Torres <
>>>> matorres124@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Make sure all the codec are installed
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do a search for your os and vlc codec and ypu should get the yum or
>>>>>>>> get-apt install commands
>>>>>>>> On Jan 5, 2015 5:20 PM, "Michael Havens" <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I can't run video successfully with vlc. Would someone who knows
>>>>>>>>> something about vlc take one of my home videos and help me set vlc
>>>> up to
>>>>>>>>> run correctly?
>>>>>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
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