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Author: Michael Havens
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Subject: Re: do I understand this correctly?
to the mint forums I go! Thanks for your help Mark. I'll post what I find
out there after I hear back from them.

:-)~MIKE~(-:

On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 12:12 PM, Mark Phillips <>
wrote:

>
> On Jan 3, 2015 11:14 AM, "Michael Havens" <> wrote:
> >
> > so then, <version> is just for lower than the version that are in the
> apt-cache.
>
> Actually, the version you want has to be in your sources.list.
>
> glad I'm talking to you all about this because I just discovered that
> after you run <package>=<version> you need to run :
> >
> > sudo echo “package hold” | sudo dpkg –set-selections
>
> Only if you don't want the package upgraded at the next apt-get upgrade.
>
> >
> > I also discovered that to find the versions in the repository you run:
> >
> > apt-cache showpkg packagename
> >
> > so is there no way to force a version into apt-cache?
>
> The sources.list just says where to find a package. Sort of like a big
> phone book...if you don't have the white pages for Ajo, you can't find your
> friend's phone number who lives in Ajo. Once you get the Ajo book, you have
> access to everyone's phone number in Ajo, but you are only interested in
> your friend's number.
>
> Pinning tells apt to only use the 2011 edition of the Ajo phone book to
> look up your friend's phone number, even though you now subscribe to the
> latest version of the Ajo phone book. You still have all the latest phone
> numbers on hand, which does not impact your selection of the 2011 phone
> number for your friend's phone number.
>
> I just tried to force the installation of the unstable version of the
> package (sudo apt-get install kmymoney/unstable) but it seems as if it
> isn't called 'unstable' in mint (ubuntu). Am I doing it wrong? What are the
> Archives called in Mint (ubuntu)
>
> Sorry, I have never used mint. Just a long time Debian user who recently
> switched to Ubuntu for my desktop with my new laptop...It came
> pre-installed. ;-)
>
> Mark
>
> >
> > :-)~MIKE~(-:
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Michael Havens <>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> help immensely. Thank you Mark.
> >>
> >> :-)~MIKE~(-:
> >>
> >> On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 9:08 AM, Mark Phillips <
> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Michael,
> >>>
> >>> If all you have is the stable branch in your sources.list, then you
> won't have access to any of the testing packages, even if you specify
> testing on the command line with apt-get. apt-get has to know where to find
> the package you want to download, which is why sources.list exists. If you
> want to be able to install both testing and stable packages, then you have
> to have both stable and testing branches listed in your sources.list.
> >>>
> >>> If you want to hold a package to a specific version or branch (stable,
> testing, experimental), then you can "pin" that package to that version,
> and all future updates will only use that version. Take a look at
> http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html. However, you still have to
> have the correct repositories listed in sources.list, and you have to run
> an apt-get upgrade to update the local cache so the OS knows where to find
> the packages you want.
> >>>
> >>> Hope that helps!
> >>>
> >>> Mark
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 1:02 AM, Michael Havens <>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> A specific version of a package can be selected for installation by
> >>>> following the package name with an equals (=) and the version of the
> package to select. This will cause that version to be located and selected
> for install. Alternatively, a specific distribution can be selected by
> following the package name with a slash (/) and the version of the
> distribution or the Archive name (i.e. stable, testing, unstable).
> >>>>
> >>>> source: http://linux.die.net/man/8/apt-get
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> So this is saying to me you don't need the PPA to install the latest
> version but can instead do:
> >>>> <package>=<version>
> >>>>
> >>>> If that is so we don't need to add PPAs to our systems. IN other
> words PPAs are just a way to make it so that we are always running the
> latest version of the package regardless of if it works whereas we choose
> what we want to run with:
> >>>> <package>=<version>
> >>>> That is very Linuxy of them!
> >>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
> >>>>
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