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Author: der.hans
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Subject: Re: Using Dban
Am 15. Dez, 2014 schwätzte Bryan O'Neal so:

moin moin,

> Not a fan of dban for that reason. Nwipe using several passes of the rcmp
> method is how I usually wipe a drive. The I format it a few times with


I forgot about nwipe.

> random file systems and a few partitions and finally drop a fresh OS on it
> before donating. If recycling I typically do one pass with nwipe and take
> the drive apart.


I also forgot about the suggestion to put a new OS on it at some point in
the middle, then wipe some more and finally put a fresh OS on it before
donating.

ciao,

der.hans

> On Dec 15, 2014 9:54 PM, "der.hans" <> wrote:
>>
>> Am 14. Dez, 2014 schwätzte Stephen M so:
>>
>> moin moin,
>>
>>
>>> There is a problem using dban. When I started it up it never gave me
>>> options on what to scan. Now my two SATA drives along with my USB drive
>>> are not working. I need help to understand what is going on please.
>>
>>
>> dban wipes every drive it can find.
>>
>> The website says, "It automatically deletes the contents of any hard disk
>> that it can detect."
>>
>> http://www.dban.org/
>>
>> Sounds like something to avoid unless you need to set up a disassembly
>> line and just rip through whatever gets connected.
>>
>> ciao,
>>
>> der.hans
>>
>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Stephen Partington <
> >
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Todd thanks. I am filing this away for my own use later.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Todd Millecam <>
> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, if it's SSD drives, don't do it this way, this is solely for
>>>>> plattered drives. If you are using an SSD, then you just need to
> issue a
>>>>> secure command to the drive and tell it to wipe itself--which you can
> do
>>>>> through hdparm:
>>>>>
>>>>> $~ hdparm --user-master u --security-set-pass PasSWorD /dev/sda #sets
> up security on the drive
>>>>>
>>>>> $~ hdparm --user-master u --security-erase PasSWorD /dev/sda # the
> point of no return delete everything on your SSD drive command
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Todd Millecam <>
> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There's a lot of ways to do it, but they all do the same thing.
>>>>>> In bash:
>>>>>> $~ shred -zn10 /dev/sda
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That'll securely erase everything on block device /dev/sda--give it a
>>>>>> while to run as it's writing random numbers across the entire drive
> and
>>>>>> then finishing by writing nothing but 0s on it. This makes all data
> on the
>>>>>> device non-recoverable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You need to overwrite the data anywhere from 4 - 15 times before it's
>>>>>> clean and nothing can be recovered from it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's essentially all dban/wipe is doing. If you want to get even
> more
>>>>>> primitive, then you can use dd (garunteed to be on all *nix systems)
>>>>>> $~ dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/sda && dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's the same as doing one pass, but if shred is there (and it
> usually
>>>>>> is) then it'll do all 10 passes for you. I guess you could just
> throw that
>>>>>> dd command in a simple loop:
>>>>>> $~ for i in `seq 10` ; do dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/sda && dd
>>>>>> if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda ; done
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dban or wipe will do all this for you, but you can do it yourself.
>>>>>> (Note, don't do it on the currently-running OS drive, because it'll
>>>>>> eventually erase glibc.so being used to do the overwrite. If you
> want to
>>>>>> do it on multiple drives, just plug them all into the same computer,
> and
>>>>>> run shred on all of them from a live-cd of your chosing)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Stephen M <>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HI,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a couple drives that I want to wipe and give them to the Loco
>>>>>>> group. I have never done a wipe on my own computer. I want to see
> whats
>>>>>>> the best method. I know there is dban, wipe, and many other
> solutions. I
>>>>>>> will be using a SATA to USB adapter so I don't have to open my
> computers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What I need to know is there a way to use that device and still work
> on
>>>>>>> my computer. Or do I have to let my computer run dban or whatever
> to wipe
>>>>>>> the drive.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Stephen Melheim
>>>>>>> 602-400-7707
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Todd Millecam
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Todd Millecam
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>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> Stephen
>>>>
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