I have been a lurker and attendee of meetings on and off since the mid
90s. I attended my once every several years meeting 2 months ago. Before
you read this whole message, know that I am not trying to put anyone out
or agitate in any manner.
I have learned a bit about the group with these discussions which were
launched after a message from Lisa. Some members do not get it in my
book. And from looking at one of the comments, I think der.hans bounced
her from the email list (I think her comments were getting redundant and
that is I guess in his power). I met Lisa once, probably 10 years ago at
a function hosted at a site on 12th St and Northern. My impression was
that she was nice and knew her stuff. I am not to say if she is right or
wrong with her complaints, but I see no way for her to bring her
complaints to the leadership of the group. A public message list I
believe is the wrong way to go but really one of the only avenues
through the website.
I know nothing of how the group functions or who the leadership is. I
can obviously guess and probably guess correctly because of how long I
have been on the list. This group is a volunteer group and not everyone
will participate and usually only a handful of people will want to take
the bull by the horns and lead. However, leadership information should
be posted on the website if you want to call this a group. Examples of
things that would be helpful...
1. List of names of the leadership committee
2. A path for members to suggest directions for the group to the committee
3. A path for members to send complaints to the group for the committee
to review and address as necessary
4. Minutes for any committee meetings
5. A way to nominate people to be on the committee
6. An election cycle to populate the committee
From looking at the posts on the mailing list and the website, the
group comes across as a hobby site of 1 or 2 people (old boys club) who
manage every meeting and what goes on. That is fine by me, but if the
group wishes to be able to address some of the concerns that were
mentioned in the messages over the last couple days, they need to
publish a structure to abide by. I don't see how the group could
consider something like an 801c3 filing without that structure. It is
like putting a cart in front of a horse.
I appriciate this group, specifically the mailing list which has
provided me help in the past and allowed me to help others. I want to
see this group get better and meet the needs of its members and that is
why I provided my 2 cents.
Thanks,
Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr.
Phoenix Internet
https://www.facebook.com/gilljr
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