I agree with most of what you say. The down side is what we saw with
the Drupal exploit. It goes viral and if you are not quick enough you
can get hit. My point is the exploits become common knowledge. The bad
hackers can automate looking for an exploit. That is a side effect of
open source.
I was not saying it was open source's fault that I tend to set and
forget - that is on me.
I was not thinking proprietary vs open source I was thinking custom
built (using open source such as PHP, Perl...etc) vs open source apps.
And I agree open source is great!!
On 2014-11-20 11:24, Nathan England wrote:
> On the contrary, "security" is the *upside* of open source. Issues get
> found and typically resolved quickly, many times within hours, as
> compared to other companies...
>
> http://www.theverge.com/2014/11/12/7202801/microsoft-patches-critical-19-year-old-windows-bug
>
> Setting and forgetting a piece of code on a machine somewhere does not
> become the fault of open source when it is not updated. Proprietary
> stuff has just as many problems, if not more. Oftentimes, the open
> source code is a labor of love and someone, or a group of people, want
> it to be awesome and perfect and not have issues, whereas the
> proprietary code is put out by a clearing house that just wants to hit
> a release date and they will fix bugs down the road... or in
> Microsoft's case, 20 years down the road...
>
> Security is most definitely not a *downside* of open source.
>
>
>
>
> On 2014-11-20 06:13, Keith Smith wrote:
>> Last time I checked Hostgator will give you shell access for a one
>> time charge of $10 per virtual host on their reseller accounts.
>>
>> There is more to your story and a problem I would think some of us
>> have. I was bit by the recent Drupal exploit. Security is the down
>> side of open source. I was bit several years ago because of an
>> exploit in an open source app.
>>
>> It literally feels like a war zone out there. I recently found a
>> Drupal install on one of my domains that I had forgotten I had put out
>> there.
>>
>> I, like you David, tend to set it and forget it. Not any more.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2014-11-19 23:34, David Schwartz wrote:
>>> It’s a shared (reseller) hosting account at HostGator.
>>>
>>> I can upload scripts and set them up to run under cron (via cPanel),
>>> but I don’t have SSH access.
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>>> On Nov 19, 2014, at 9:51 PM, Eric Cope <eric.cope@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> can you install it locally? run it in userspace?
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 9:42 PM, David Schwartz
>>>> <newsletters@thetoolwiz.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Does anybody know of any scripts like tripwire that are designed
>>>>> to be installed on shared hosting accounts to alert you to
>>>>> unexpected changes?
>>>>>
>>>>> Tripwire works by taking an inventory of the folders and files
>>>>> you want to monitor. It then will do a scan periodically via a
>>>>> cron entry and compare the file signatures with those recorded
>>>>> previously, as well as the two sets of file lists. Any new,
>>>>> modified, or deleted files will be reported to you via email or
>>>>> something like that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Somebody hacked into one of my websites through an exploit on an
>>>>> old WP plugin that I neglected to update. I have no idea when it
>>>>> happened, but just learned about it last week. I don’t pay a lot
>>>>> of attention to most of my sites, so I thought it would make sense
>>>>> to install something like tripwire to look for unexpected changes.
>>>>> (Tripwire itself needs to be installed in the root and needs root
>>>>> access, AFAIK. Maybe not. Suggestions welcome!)
>>>>>
>>>>> -David
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