sorry about the delay.... I had to go to work.
top - 22:16:50 up 1 day, 8:59, 2 users, load average: 0.30, 0.19, 0.15
Tasks: 168 total, 2 running, 166 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie
%Cpu(s): 12.0 us, 2.3 sy, 0.0 ni, 84.1 id, 1.7 wa, 0.0 hi, 0.0 si,
0.0 st
KiB Mem: 1983332 total, 1812836 used, 170496 free, 57184 buffers
KiB Swap: 5855656 total, 40496 used, 5815160 free. 560792 cached Mem
it looks to me like the additional memory will be beneficial.
Nobody answered my question; if I am sent the 533 Mhz ram instead of the
800 will the different speed rams play together? The reason I ask is Amazon
sent me a letter saying my order (the 533 Mhz) had shipped then I tried to
change my order and the company said that it wouldn't be a problem.
Further, they didn't charge me more so I am thinking they are BSing me. But
if they did that I would write a negative customer feedback report. SO I
guess they really are sending me the right memory for the price I paid for
the slower memory. This company is Computer Memory Solutions
<
http://www.amazon.com/gp/node/index.html?ie=UTF8&marketplaceID=ATVPDKIKX0DER&me=A1X44CXPYKK87E&merchant=A1X44CXPYKK87E&redirect=true>
.
:-)~MIKE~(-:
On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 7:49 PM, Mark Phillips <
mark@phillipsmarketing.biz>
wrote:
> I have found the best number to watch is the amount of swap used. If that
> grows, then you need more RAM. If you are running slow and not using swap,
> then adding RAM won't help.
>
> Mark
>
> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 4:53 PM, Carruth, Rusty <Rusty@smartm.com> wrote:
>
>> Unless his problem is LACK of ram. Yes, I know it said 489M free.
>> Without a look at top I’m not convinced yet that he won’t see any
>> improvement.
>>
>>
>>
>> Here is ‘top’ from a machine which is pretty un-loaded:
>>
>>
>>
>> top - 16:40:14 up 63 days, 1:12, 3 users, load average: 0.42, 0.62,
>> 0.67
>>
>> Tasks: 287 total, 1 running, 282 sleeping, 0 stopped, 4 zombie
>>
>> Cpu(s): 3.8%us, 0.9%sy, 0.0%ni, 95.3%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si,
>> 0.0%st
>>
>> Mem: 2564652k total, 2053712k used, 510940k free, 91448k buffers
>>
>> Swap: 6095864k total, 371340k used, 5724524k free, 516624k cached
>>
>>
>>
>> And here’s a top from one of our servers:
>>
>>
>>
>> top - 16:42:03 up 141 days, 19:59, 6 users, load average: 0.00, 0.02,
>> 0.05
>>
>> Tasks: 274 total, 1 running, 273 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie
>>
>> %Cpu(s): 3.1 us, 0.6 sy, 0.0 ni, 96.0 id, 0.3 wa, 0.0 hi, 0.0 si,
>> 0.0 st
>>
>> KiB Mem: 32898652 total, 32469852 used, 428800 free, 2711252 buffers
>>
>> KiB Swap: 33506300 total, 1224 used, 33505076 free, 22613684 cached
>>
>>
>>
>> (yeah, 32G of ram. I can edit (using emacs) a 20G file with NO
>> problems. I know because I have)
>>
>>
>>
>> Again, nice and responsive (but then this machine says:
>>
>>
>>
>> /var/log/dmesg:[ 0.000007] Calibrating delay loop (skipped), value
>> calculated using timer frequency.. 4399.98 BogoMIPS (lpj=8799976)
>>
>> /var/log/dmesg:[ 0.121190] smpboot: Total of 4 processors activated
>> (17599.95 BogoMIPS)
>>
>>
>>
>> So I suppose that’s a pretty hot machine.)
>>
>>
>>
>> On the OTHER hand, look at this machine, which runs pretty much as well
>> as everything ELSE here I’ve mentioned:
>>
>>
>>
>> top - 16:45:51 up 51 days, 23:59, 28 users, load average: 4.79, 4.46,
>> 4.51
>>
>> Tasks: 335 total, 1 running, 330 sleeping, 0 stopped, 4 zombie
>>
>> %Cpu(s): 70.4 us, 0.8 sy, 0.0 ni, 28.6 id, 0.0 wa, 0.0 hi, 0.1 si,
>> 0.0 st
>>
>> KiB Mem: 8159892 total, 7781364 used, 378528 free, 290460 buffers
>>
>> KiB Swap: 2086908 total, 0 used, 2086908 free, 5508492 cached
>>
>>
>>
>> /var/log/dmesg:[ 0.000001] Calibrating delay loop (skipped), value
>> calculated using timer frequency.. 5985.88 BogoMIPS (lpj=11971768)
>>
>> /var/log/dmesg:[ 0.074024] smpboot: Total of 2 processors activated
>> (11971.76 BogoMIPS)
>>
>>
>>
>> Again, fast cpu, but then I’ve got 4 processor-bound applications running
>> all the time on it so its at a load average of 4.79. I’ve remembered that
>> the important numbers come from:
>>
>>
>>
>> %Cpu(s): 70.4 us, 0.8 sy, 0.0 ni, 28.6 id, 0.0 wa, 0.0 hi, 0.1 si,
>> 0.0 st
>>
>>
>>
>> If that said:
>>
>>
>>
>> %Cpu(s): 70.4 us, 0.8 sy, 0.0 ni, 0.6 id, 26.0 wa, 0.0 hi, 0.1 si,
>> 0.0 st
>>
>>
>>
>> You’d have something of a slow machine. If it said:
>>
>>
>>
>> %Cpu(s): 20.4 us, 0.8 sy, 0.0 ni, 8.6 id, 70.0 wa, 0.0 hi, 0.1 si,
>> 0.0 st
>>
>>
>>
>> Youd be going to lunch while waiting for it to finish whatever you were
>> doing, if I remember the numbers right.
>>
>>
>>
>> IMHO, YMMV, etc, etc J
>>
>>
>>
>> I look forward to hearing what Mike discovers.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org [mailto:
>> plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org] *On Behalf Of *Mark Phillips
>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 09, 2014 4:36 PM
>> *To:* Main PLUG discussion list
>> *Subject:* Re: memory
>>
>>
>>
>> Mike,
>>
>> On page 91 of the Dell Dimension C521 that I sent to you, you can use
>> memory sticks at 533 MHz, 667 MHz, and 800 MHz. Since the original ones are
>> 800 MHz, you did the right thing by changing your order from 533 MHz to 800
>> MHz.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bottom line...unless you were doing a lot of RAM intensive computations
>> on this machine, you won't see a lot of performance improvement for your
>> investment of $50 in the memory.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Michael Havens <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I emailed the company I bought the ram from and they said they would send
>> the 800 Mhz instead of the chips advertised. If that happens I don't know.
>> If it does not happen should I get the matching 533Mhz ram or can I have
>> the mismatching speeds (will it default the the slower speed)?
>>
>>
>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 12:41 PM, <techlists@phpcoderusa.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> I did a search on "CPU family 15 Model 79 Stepping 2" and this is what I
>> found.
>>
>>
>> http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K8/AMD-Sempron%2064%203400%2B%20-%20SDA3400IAA3CN%20%28SDA3400CNBOX%29.html
>>
>> And here is the benchmark I found
>> http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Sempron+3400%2B
>>
>> I would say at least in part the cause of your computer being slow is the
>> CPU.
>>
>> I'd be interested to hear if more RAM makes a difference. Of course RAM
>> might effect performance if you are doing something that requires a lot of
>> RAM. I assume more RAM will effect compile speed.
>>
>> This is a testament to Linux breathing life into old iron.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2014-10-09 14:03, Michael Havens wrote:
>>
>> bmike1@C521 ~ $ lscpu
>> Architecture: x86_64
>> CPU op-mode(s): 32-bit, 64-bit
>> Byte Order: Little Endian
>> CPU(s): 1
>> On-line CPU(s) list: 0
>> Thread(s) per core: 1
>> Core(s) per socket: 1
>> Socket(s): 1
>> NUMA node(s): 1
>> Vendor ID: AuthenticAMD
>> CPU family: 15
>> Model: 79
>> Stepping: 2
>> CPU MHz: 1000.000
>> BogoMIPS: 2004.24
>> Virtualization: AMD-V
>> L1d cache: 64K
>> L1i cache: 64K
>> L2 cache: 512K
>> NUMA node0 CPU(s): 0
>>
>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 10:04 AM, <techlists@phpcoderusa.com> wrote:
>>
>> what CPU does that box have?
>>
>> On 2014-10-09 09:36, Mark Phillips wrote:
>> Michael,
>>
>> It seems the max memory is 4GB for that system - 4 banks of 1 GB
>> sticks.
>> RAM memory Capacity - 4 GB
>> Memory Type - DDR2 SDRAM - DIMM 240-pin
>> Data Integrity Check - Non-ECC
>> Speed - 667 MHz ( PC2-5300 )
>> Features - Dual rank , unbuffered
>>
>> You already have 2 1GB sticks in the machines - what speed are
>> they?
>> You should match the speed for all four sticks.
>>
>> The second set you mentioned are only 533 MHz, whereas your bus is
>> 667
>> MHz. If your system is slow, get the fastest memory you can afford.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Carruth, Rusty <Rusty@smartm.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, 1024 is one gig, but often some memory is stolen by the
>> motherboard – for example if you have an on-board graphics card
>> that uses main memory for its RAM.
>>
>>
>>
>> Personally, if you can afford it and the 4G is less than 2x the 2G
>> I’d get 4G – but if you could find 2x2G sticks then you could
>> have 6G total – not bad IMHO.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> FROM: plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org
>> [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org] ON BEHALF OF
>> Michael Havens
>> SENT: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 1:43 PM
>> TO: PLUG
>> SUBJECT: memory
>>
>>
>>
>> I know this is a stupid question but...
>>
>>
>>
>> I got a Dell dimension c521. It is slow so I figure I should add
>> memory. There are 4 memory slots with 2 being used. How much memory
>> is that? Well, the cards that are in there say it they are two
>> cards with 1024 mb apiece. 'free -h' reports
>>
>>
>>
>> free -h
>>
>> total used free
>>
>> shared buffers cached
>>
>> Mem: 1.9G 1.4G 489M 18M
>> 59M 535M
>>
>>
>>
>> isn't 1024 one gig? Where is the rest?
>>
>>
>>
>> SHould I buy this?
>>
>>
>>
>> NEW 4GB 4X1GB DDR2 PC2-5300 667MHZ RAM MEMORY FOR DELL DIMENSION
>> C521 [1]
>>
>>
>>
>> or should I get this?
>>
>>
>>
>> 2GB (2X1GB) RAM MEMORY CMS COMPATIBLE WITH DELL DIMENSION C521
>> DESKTOP [2]
>>
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