> I get it!
>
> cat x | grep y
>
> is redundant. did I learn that when it wasn't redundant? if it never has
> been redundant I wonder why I thought the pipe was needed?
>
> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Brian Cluff <brian@snaptek.com
> <mailto:brian@snaptek.com>> wrote:
>
> You'll need to add some single quotes to keep the shell from
> interpreting your regex as shell code like this:
>
> grep -E 'error|fail' {make,install,check}.fail
>
> Without the single quotes you are telling the system to cat from
> your set of files and look for lines with the word error and pipe
> that to a program called fail.
>
> I found that I did have to add the -E even thought the man page says
> that in the GNU version of grep the basic and extended regular
> expressions are the same... it appears that is not the case in practice.
>
> Brian Cluff
>
>
> On 08/25/2014 12:56 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
>
> I have 3 files, make.fail, install.fail, and check.fail. I want
> to check
> for two words in those files: error and fail.
>
> would this work?
>
> cat {make,install,check}.fail | grep -i error|fail
>
> I was told to put the 'E' option in to grep. Looking at the man
> page it
> seems that the E option is only useful if I were greping for
> something
> that begins with a '{'. AM I misreading the man page?
>
> man quote:
> GNU grep -E attempts to support traditional usage by
> assuming
> that { is
> not special if it would be the start of an
> invalid
> interval
> specification. For example, the command grep -E '{1'
> searches
> for the
> two-character string {1 instead of reporting a
> syntax error
> in the
> regular expression. POSIX allows this behavior as an
> extension, but
> portable scripts should avoid it.
>
>
>
> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Michael Havens
> <bmike1@gmail.com <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>
> <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>
> you guys are so helpful! Thanks.
>
> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 7:40 PM, Jon Kettenhofen
> <subs@kexsof.com <mailto:subs@kexsof.com>
> <mailto:subs@kexsof.com <mailto:subs@kexsof.com>>> wrote:
>
> I like visible proofs, so here's a test I ran:
> (terminal output was as is shown)
>
> [jon@localhost ~]$ rm temp
> [jon@localhost ~]$ echo >>temp
> [jon@localhost ~]$ echo $?
> 0
> [jon@localhost ~]$ cat temp
>
> [jon@localhost ~]$ echo >>temp 2>&1
> [jon@localhost ~]$ echo $?
> 0
> [jon@localhost ~]$ cat temp
>
>
> [jon@localhost ~]$
>
> as you can see, no errors and the single ">" did not
> erase the
> file when used in this manner. So Mike's script should
> work as
> intended
> at least if there is no stderr output.
>
> but suppose there was an error? (apologizing for the
> length of ...)
>
> [jon@localhost ~]$ echo "echo" >test
> [jon@localhost ~]$ echo "ls temp2" >>test
> [jon@localhost ~]$ # test ls of non-existent file
> [jon@localhost ~]$ ls temp2
> ls: cannot access temp2: No such file or directory
> [jon@localhost ~]$ echo $?
> 2
> [jon@localhost ~]$ # see, we get both an error and
> stderr message
> [jon@localhost ~]$ # so
> [jon@localhost ~]$ mv test test.sh
> [jon@localhost ~]$ chgmod +x test.sh
> bash: chgmod: command not found...
> [jon@localhost ~]$ chmod +x test.sh
> [jon@localhost ~]$ # i'm not perfect!
> [jon@localhost ~]$ rm temp
> [jon@localhost ~]$ ./test.sh >>temp
> ls: cannot access temp2: No such file or directory
> [jon@localhost ~]$ echo $?
> 2
> [jon@localhost ~]$ cat temp
>
> [jon@localhost ~]$ ./test.sh >>temp 2>&1
> [jon@localhost ~]$ echo $?
> 2
> [jon@localhost ~]$ cat temp
>
>
> ls: cannot access temp2: No such file or directory
> [jon@localhost ~]$
>
> as you can see, Mike's script will work as he
> apparently intended,
> providing he's using a modern version of bash.
>
>
>
> On 08/24/2014 09:56 PM, James Mcphee wrote:
>
> you've said make, append stdout (default file
> descriptor 1)
> to file
> make.fail, assign stderr (default filedescriptor 2)
> the same
> filedescriptor as stdout. So... If the intent was
> to have
> both stderr
> and stdout append make.fail, then it is correct.
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Michael Havens
> <bmike1@gmail.com <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>
> <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>>
> <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>
> <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>>>> wrote:
>
> what I really need to know is will this:
>
> make>>make.fail 2>&1
>
> send stderr and stdout to the file 'make.fail'
> or did I
> write it
> incorrectly?
>
> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Brian Cluff
> <brian@snaptek.com <mailto:brian@snaptek.com>
> <mailto:brian@snaptek.com <mailto:brian@snaptek.com>>
> <mailto:brian@snaptek.com
> <mailto:brian@snaptek.com> <mailto:brian@snaptek.com
> <mailto:brian@snaptek.com>>>>
>
> wrote:
>
> the > will delete any file that it points
> at even
> if the command
> doesn't actually output anything. It will
> even
> delete the file
> is the command doesn't exist like if you
> type grep
> as gerp
> >file, file will still be
> created/overwritten.
>
> If you want to make sure that your command
> doesn't
> overwrite any
> existing files you have to set the
> noclobber option
> like:
> $ set -o noclobber
>
> A good trick to know:
> You can use the > to delete the contents
> of a file
> without
> having to delete and recreate the file by
> simply
> doing this:
> $ >yourfile
>
> Brian Cluff
>
>
> On 08/24/2014 02:36 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
>
> I have a question about redirections:
>
> make>>make.fail 2>&1
>
> tells it make and then to send (>)
> stderr (2)
> to stdout (1)
> and also to
> send stdout that way also (&1).
> finally all of
> that gets
> sent to a file
> named make.fail (>>). Isn't '>>' actually
> 'append' whereas
> '>' would
> work just as well so long as the file
> didn't
> already exist?
> If the file
> did exist would I get an error or
> would the
> file be overwritten?
> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>
>
>
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