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Author: keith smith
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Subject: Re: CentOS 6.x and CentOS 7 upgrade path and testing PHP on current and future versions.
That's pretty cool!!  Thanks!!



 
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Keith Smith
On Wednesday, May 7, 2014 5:24 PM, James Dugger <> wrote:

I use CentOS 6.5 with php 5.4 and 5.5 through webtatic repo.  Below is the link

http://webtatic.com/packages/php55/




On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 7:46 AM, George Toft <> wrote:

Hi Keith,
>
>I have solid word from Red Hat that each minor rev to their major

      releases are 100% binary compatible, and yes, they lock the
      version numbers for the entire release.  If you look at the RH
      version numbers, you'll see something like this:

>    5.3.3-27.el6_5
>Everything after the dash is Red Hat's patch.  So even after they

      backport a fix, the version (5.3.3) remains the same, but the
      patch number increases.  So in this case, this is the 27th Red Hat
      patch to PHP 5.3.3.

>
>I had fun with that when this high-falutin' Washington DC Beltway

      Bandit risk assessment team came rolling in to do an assessment. 
      They grabbed the SSL banner (0.9.8 something) off some web servers
      and called an OMG emergency meeting with the system administrators
      and management about why we're running outdated versions of Apache
      and SSL.  After they presented their "findings" they all looked at
      me, and I said flatly "We don't use Apache here.  We use IHS."
      (IBM HTTP Server - based on Apache, but with IBM secret sauce.) 
      You could have heard a pin drop as they huddle and whisper and
      look silly.  Yeah, that was fun.  They hate me.  They should have
      done their research and asked a couple questions first.  Oh well. 
      Then I had to research the SSL thing and show the Red Hat Errata
      demonstrating the "old" version of SSL was patched against known
      vulnerabilities.  

>
>As far as Centos and RHEL, I don't know why you assume CentOS

      would be a year or two later than RHEL.  This article indicates
      CentOS will be tightly coupled and more fluid than RHEL: http://www.zdnet.com/red-hat-reveals-centos-plans-7000027812/

>"However, there's a firewall between RHEL and CentOS developers. The net effect is that CentOS will continue to lag a bit behind RHEL in releases. Even so, CentOS releases will be coming out on RHEL heels rather than weeks or months behind."
>
>I'm amused that you are trying to plan 6-10 years out in the IT

      field.

></sarcasm>
>
>
>Regards, George Toft

On 5/6/2014 10:23 AM, keith smith wrote:
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>>Hi,
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>>I want to test some PHP code on future versions of PHP / MySql / MariaDB.
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>>I'm running CentOS 6.5 that installs php 5.3.3-27 which is at it's end of life.  It is my understanding RHEL 6.x will always be using PHP 5.3.  Is that correct?  RHEL will be supported until Nov of 2020.  That is a long time to be running a PHP version that is at end of life.  I understand RH will back port any bug or security fixes to PHP 5.3 (which actually breaks the version numbering system).
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>>It is my understanding RHEL will be based on Fedora 19.  I am downloading Fedora 19 now. I assume testing on Fedora 19 will get me in the ball park for RHEL 7.   RHEL 7 will come with MariaDB as it's default DB.  I assume I will not see RHEL 7 in the form of CentOS 7 for year or two?
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>>I assume there will be several more releases of RHEL 6 since it will be supported for over 6 more years.
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>>If I plan to stay with CentOS 6.x and if it will use the same MySql and PHP versions until end of life and if RHEL/CentOS 7 will be based on Fedora 19, I assume that is the only configurations I need to test on and I assume that will take me through 6 to 10 years.  Is this a fair expectation and a valid plan?
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>>Any feed back and advice is much appreciated.  
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>>Thanks!!
>>Keith
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