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Author: Derek Trotter
Date:  
To: schwartz, Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: Re: Yahoo's DMARC policy sucks
I thought I wasn't having any trouble with messages arriving, but then I
logged into gmail via the web and checked my spam folder. All that was
in there were messages from this list and one other. I checked them all
and clicked the not spam button. It said they were moved to the inbox.
All were yahoo addresses except one from Hans. Strange that all his
other messages would make it but Google's spam filters would catch one.

Is there a punishment too severe for spammers? I think not.

On 04/18/2014 04:00 PM, Mike Schwartz wrote:
> > I guess Yahoo is treating PLUG as spam.
>
> Apparently, so is gmail... (and maybe for similar or "analogous"
> reasons.)
> I use gmail [since circa late 2005] and I found this message in my
> "Junk mail" (or 'spam') folder, there on gmail.
>
> I don't keep up with (reading) PLUG-DISCUSS as often as I used to ...
> but any time I want to, if I really do want to read it, then (no
> matter) even if the robots are starting to categorize messages like
> this as "junk" mail -- (a "false positive", IMHO) -- I could always go
> read the messages on the archive, on the server.
>
> > Obviously this message won't reach the people who are being dropped
> from
> the list, but [...]
>
> I don't think I've been "dropped from the list" [yet], .. but, thanks
> for the HEADS-UP! :-) !
>
> Just my 0.02 ... YMMV ...
>
> PS: Regards to many of my old friends -- (whom I probably have not
> seen / e-mailed, in a long time) --
> ... from
> --
> Mike Schwartz
> Glendale AZ
> <mailto:schwartz@acm.org>
>
> On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 3:46 PM, keith smith <
> <mailto:klsmith2020@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
>     I have a Yahoo email account and I got this several hours ago.

>
>     Your membership in the mailing list PLUG-discuss has been disabled due
>     to excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated
>     12-Apr-2014.  You will not get any more messages from this list until
>     you re-enable your membership.  You will receive 3 more reminders like
>     this before your membership in the list is deleted.

>
>     I guess Yahoo is treating PLUG as spam.

>
>     The newsletter folks like iContact are having to deal with Yahoo,
>     Gmail, HotMail..... etc bouncing emails if the recipient does not
>     open a certain number of emails they signed up to get. Must be a
>     profit thing.

>
>     I do not read every plug post so maybe that is what happened to me.
>     ------------------------
>     Keith Smith
>     On Saturday, April 12, 2014 1:56 PM, Brian Cluff
>     <> wrote:
>     Thanks to some changes at yahoo, people that were subscribed to
>     the plug
>     mailing lists and probably wanted to continue to receive PLUG
>     email are
>     dropping off the list like flies due to their messages from the list
>     being rejected.

>
>     Obviously this message won't reach the people who are being
>     dropped from
>     the list, but if anyone runs into someone that says that haven't been
>     getting new emails, you can tell them that they need to switch
>     providers
>     because yahoo and any other domain that is hosted by yahoo will no
>     longer accept plug emails.

>
>     I'll try to archive the bounce notifications and if yahoo changes
>     their
>     policy, I'll manually resubscribe anyone that gets dropped.  Until
>     then
>     we have to assume that this change is permanent.

>
>     Brian Cluff
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