I really like Arch, but if you're looking for a user-friendly Ubuntu
replacement look elsewhere. User friendly desktops distros are a
crowded space (Fedora, OpenSuSE, Ubuntu, Mint, etc) and Chakra
attempts to bring this concept to a fork of Arch. That being said
Arch is specifically designed with KISS principles and a simple (*not*
easy) system in mind.
Also just fyi Arch is run by a small team so most of the packages you
want are probably in AUR, which is a bit like EPEL in RHEL terms.
Have a look at Yaourt for a package manager that wraps pacman and aur:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/yaourt
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 8:48 AM, Michael Butash <
michael@butash.net> wrote:
> I'm curious to see if it's as broken as ubuntu seems to be these days -
> feedback from adopters here appreciated.
>
> I spent 3 days last week trying to get ubuntu working with 13.10 on a fresh
> install, and since they're forcing use of a desktop cd, and not producing
> alt installs now, found the install process to be entirely broken. A new
> laptop with only EFI boot apparently leaves me few options for
> distributions, namely excluding debian which I was going to attempt to
> migrate to avoid ubuntu's steady decline in quality/stability. Hopefully
> Valve heads this off using the Ubuntu/Debian base.
>
> I spent the weekend attempting to abandon Ubuntu and learning Arch (or
> trying to) after the ubuntu fail, which wasn't exactly easy, and simply
> finding just about every step requires some extensive research of packages,
> lack of automagical setup, and sadly most any ease found in Ubuntu I've
> apparently taken for granted. Not to mention I'm not finding pacman
> packages for most things I need/want (doubt Steam is going to be supported
> on Arch anytime soon).
>
> Maybe Valve injecting their two bits around Debian too will help that, but I
> doubt it'll support more enterprise-y features like raid, encryption, and
> lvm as part of the install features I need. Then again, I wish Ubuntu would
> just put it back said features or produce an alt cd again including them
> natively until someone fixes their broken desktop installer.
>
> -mb
>
>
>
> On 12/16/2013 08:40 AM, Shawn Badger wrote:
>
> I don't know how this hasn't made it to the list yet, but Steam released
> their Debian based gaming OS.
> Here is a link to download it
>
> http://repo.steamstatic.com/download/
>
>
>
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