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Author: Derek Trotter
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To: michael, Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: Re:
It would be nice if the linux distros would get together and come up
with a "linux friendly" certification.

On 11/27/2013 09:14 PM, Michael Butash wrote:
>
> I'd avoid hp laptops like the plague, traditionally they and toshiba
> have been by far the worst laptop vendor for linux support, as they
> still play the "oh, no one uses linux" excuse. I abandoned my
> personal elitebook as it'd never suspend right, and constantly have
> disk issues with them for no apparent reason (seems disk locking/tpm
> bugs them out). Their hardware developers work around acpi bugs in
> bios with windoze drivers for them, or engineer the bios for broken
> windoze acpi implementations. Never really have gotten a clear answer
> which direction it actually is, but typically linux hates their idiots
> that make their bios.
>
> That said, my current employer gave me a hp elitebook folio that
> surprisingly works pretty decently with linux (ubuntu, currently 13.10
> on it). My worst issues pertain to enterprise-y function like
> wireless, docking stations, ad/kerberos (likewise/krb5), pam, and lightdm.
>
> Dell on the other hand employees at least one of the more major
> contributors to the linux kernel, and haven't had an issue running
> linux oob on them since maybe 2008.
>
> -mb
>
> Sent from a carrier unfriendly android device.
>
> On November 27, 2013 3:15:41 PM Derek Trotter wrote:
>
>> I would be careful of the HP laptops if you're going to put linux on
>> them. You might remember from a few months ago the trouble I had
>> with my HP desktop running linux. It liked to lock up at random,
>> sometimes within 20 minutes of booting up, sometimes it might last a
>> day or two. Recently my sister asked me to put linux on her HP
>> laptop. I did and it had the same locking up at random issue.
>>
>> On 11/27/2013 09:24 AM, Stephen wrote:
>>> I have to say i have liked the internal design of the last two
>>> generations. Easy to work on and keep cleaned out.
>>>
>>> well on the latitudes specifically, the inspirons were a PITA to
>>> work on.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 8:59 AM, keith smith <
>>> <mailto:klsmith2020@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>     Hi,

>>>
>>>     I'm seeing some decent pricing on laptops for tomorrow night /
>>>     Friday morning.

>>>
>>>     I have several HP's and find them to be decent laptops.  I use
>>>     Dell for my desktop computers and have really enjoyed their
>>>     products.

>>>
>>>     I'm looking at a Toshiba that is a decent build and has a really
>>>     good price.  I owned a Toshiba about 12 years ago and was not
>>>     very impressed.

>>>
>>>     I hear there is only 4 manufactures of laptop components, so I
>>>     am wondering if the company that does the assembly and puts
>>>     their name on the finish product is all that important.

>>>
>>>     You thoughts on this matter are very important to me.

>>>
>>>     Thanks!
>>>     Keith

>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you
>>> from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze
>>> button.
>>>
>>> Stephen
>>>
>>>
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>>
>> Patrick Moore
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