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Author: Eric Cope
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To: Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: Re: OT: NSA story keeps getting bigger...
Looks like Matt Salmon and Kyrsten Sinema signed Justin Amash's letter to
the NSA:
https://www.facebook.com/repjustinamash/posts/556394431066634

Eric


On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 9:08 PM, Nathan England <> wrote:

>
> On 6/6/2013 8:06 PM, Patrick Callahan wrote:
> > I was in the 3rd grade when the Twin Towers fell. We've been at war
> > for what feels like my entire life. We've been chasing after
> > 'terrorism' as long as I can remember. I've never gotten onto an
> > airplane without having to deal with the TSA. I was born into the
> > age of the PATRIOT Act. There used to be a time when they couldn't
> > just take you to Gitmo? What is America like? I sometimes feel like
> > I've never been.
> >
> > I know the freedom and justice have always been matters of
> > struggle, and here in the US not much of either were afforded to
> > many minorities for a long time. In some important ways, especially
> > in terms of equality, things are better than they've ever been.
> > Still, this kind of news makes me feel so powerless and
> > indifferent, and it's all I've been hearing my whole life. I'm so
> > sick of it. I loathe the 'post-9/11 world' that has been my
> > environment since childhood.
> >
>
>
> You know, as a street preacher and believer of the bible, I pray for
> situations and responses as yours. What an incredible open door! What
> is really interesting is I believe there is a generation of kids and
> young adults who are entering society right this moment who have never
> heard of Jesus Christ, some may call that progress, naturally I do not.
>
> While I may have turned off a lot of people in that one paragraph, my
> intention is not to begin preaching about Christ, but rather to point
> out that a book that was written thousands of years ago suggested a
> time such as this would come. Scoffers will scoff and have a myriad of
> reasons why anyone could have made such a prediction, but as I believe
> the bible, I believe it teaches many people will feel exactly as you
> just suggested right now. I believe the bible teaches that in the end
> times, which I believe we are, people will be confused, not knowing
> which way to turn, people will be crying out for answers, people will
> be almost desperate to find something comforting because of the choas
> around them. I believe this chaotic, confused, claustrophobic
> environment is exactly what the devil wants to create so when the
> person the bible refers to as the antichrist shows up and says peace
> peace, people will be begging for more.
>
> Whether you agree with anything I've said, believe it or not, we live
> in interesting times. Many would say we are progressing, yet progress
> implies things are changing for the better. They do not say we are
> "digressing". Progress implies change for good. Yet look around,
> things are not getting better. The only possible outcomes for what we
> see happening right now are: 1) revolution, which will lead to war. 2)
> Loss of all liberties as a police state is created. 3) Anarchy, which
> I believe would be different than revolution, which would likely lead
> to multiple factions creating multiple police states.
>
> All of which lead to a time of no peace. A time of extreme bondage. A
> time that some would refer to, even now, as "wars and rumors of wars".
>
> I hope I have not offended anyone, but I appreciate the open door you
> left me Patrick! Thank you!
>
> Nathan
>
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