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Author: kitepilot@kitepilot.com
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Subject: Re: 32bit vs 64bit Linux
Lisa, what I was referring to specifically is 'Red Hat Enterprise Linux
Server release 6.4 (Santiago)' (from /etc/issue)

Those boxes '64-bit' boxes were unable to run 32-bit applications until I
installed the 32-bit libraries.
They technically were 'pure 64' until I 'fixed' them by installing such
libraries... :-)
ET



Lisa Kachold writes:

> This is patently incorrect:
>
> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 10:44 AM, <
> > wrote:
>
>> Yes, you can get 'pure 64' systems (think Red Hat).
>> And you can 'fix them' by installing the hybrid 32-bit libraries, but I'd
>> rather stay away from it.
>> ET
>>
>
> CentOs 6 using regular repo used both 32bit and 64 bit libraries -
> seamlessly.
>
> There is no reason to "fix" anything in modern linux distributions.
>
> There once was, however this is no longer a factor.
>
>>
>> Nathan England writes:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'll expand *your* question!
>>> Are there any *pure* 64-bit OS options out there? Beyond a linux from
>>> scratch build, which I have currently that is still pure 64-bit, what is
>>> there?
>>> every distro I know of has 32-bit libraries band-aided on to make some
>>> 32-bit that refuses to die run.
>>> Nathan
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, May 31, 2013 13:32:55 wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well, I'll expand the question...
>>>> Performance and memory access considerations aside, the reason why I have
>>>> always 'gone 32' is because applications availability. Back when, flash
>>>> was
>>>> the limiting factor because it was a PAIN to run it in 64 bits (if at all
>>>> possible).
>>>> And some other things...
>>>> For years, I've been lazily sticking to 32 bits to avoid potentially
>>>> problematic issues. Now, if that landscape has changed, and
>>>> application-wise 32 and 64 bits are irrelevant, I'd certainly like to
>>>> convert to 64.
>>>> Question is (again, performance and memory access considerations aside):
>>>> What are the potential problems of running on a pure 64 environment for
>>>> as
>>>> long as you stick to apt-get (or yum)?
>>>> ET
>>>> keith smith writes:
>>>> > Hi,
>>>> > > Even though I have 64bit hardware I always install the 32bit version
>>>> of
>>>> > Linux. I do so because of the past discussions on this list that made
>>>> me
>>>> > believe the 32bit OS was better because 64bit caching is actually
>>>> slower
>>>> > due to the requirement that the cache be filled to a certain point
>>>> before
>>>> > it is moved. I think I recall something about the amount of RAM
>>>> having
>>>> > some effect here also.
>>>> > > Using a 32bit version over a 64bit version seems counter intuitive,
>>>> > however that is what I have taken away from these conversations about
>>>> > 32bit vs 64bit Linux.
>>>> > > I'm using CentOS 6.x on a LAMP server that gets a low amount of
>>>> traffic. > However I may make the jump to Linux on my desktop this summer.
>>>> (this
>>>> > will be my 3rd attempt to become M$ free except one VM so I can use IE
>>>> > for testing) I think all of my hardware is 64bit. > > So that begs
>>>> the question, is 32bit better than 64bit or do I not
>>>> > understand the issue?
>>>> > > Thank you for your feedback.
>>>> > > Keith
>>>> > > ------------------------
>>>> > > Keith Smith
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