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Author: Lisa Kachold
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Subject: Re: I was wondering....
Mike,

On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 10:58 PM, Michael Havens <> wrote:

> Doubtful, but is the google version of skype any better than skype in the
> seecurity arena?
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2013/05/13/us/politics/ap-us-ap-phone-records-subpoena.html?pagewanted=all
> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>


Good question? I assume you are assuming that use of Google Voice or Skype
would side step DHS intrusion into American privacy? The irony of this is
that most people using Skype or Google Voice ALSO have a "smart phone", say
a Google Android or an iPhone. The DHS equipment includes the ability to
"listen" to everything by sending a signal from the cell phone companies to
open a listening socket.

That listening socket allows them to hear your full skype or google voice
account as long as you also have a SIM and account or are carrying a "smart
phone" with you. Everyone I know using a tablet with skype does so with
mic/speakers on not using an earphone -- so the full conversation is
available to all.

And the DHS/RSA has various "taps" that collect data at various "hubs"
nationally and internationally.  That data can be and is catagorized and
used.  So while the process to listen to VOIP calls might "seem" harder, it
is in fact easier and as time goes along, and databases expanded and setup
for speech to text searches based on any number of criteria, no
conversation, no information and no secrets can be kept from the
government, unless you can expand those budding interpersonal skills and
develop what the Native American holy men refer to as the "gift of silence"
which equates to the ability to "sub vocalize" and hear other's
subvocalizations, feel their feelings, and see their mental image pictures
(all skills heavily stifled in our society, yet things we each experience
as part of "intimacy").    I don't believe they can tap that yet, (but I
wouldn't put it past them, since remote viewing seemed to be such a
successful program in the cold war years).



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