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Author: Bryan O'Neal
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Subject: Re: OT: Internet Sales Tax Passes the U.S. Senate
Intersting...

State must provide the software free of charge and


"Nothing in this Act shall be construed to deny the ability of a remote
seller to deploy and utilize a certified software provider of the seller’s
choice. "


On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Bryan O'Neal <
> wrote:

> Data exchange can be done - If I can pipe xen cart on LAMP into quick
> books on windows real time after a weekend of playing around I am sure some
> one like intuit will have way to cover you. That said - it will take a year
> or two for the dust to settle and it will cost people to comply. But if you
> sell $1M/year and you can not afford a $1500 bump in expenses I would say
> your margins are too thin to survive. As far as remittance most states
> allow you to do the monthly remittance online. I wrote a simple script for
> the sate of AZ so again, I think biger software companies can handle making
> it very simple for you. And again, if you are doing a mill in sales and you
> are not using some form of software that has active development you will
> have problems.
> What I am trying to say is the concept is not as daunting as it may sound.
> The problem is not in the concept, however the execution will be very
> painful. And this will cause a lot of problems for a lot of people.
>
>
> On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 6:19 PM, keith smith <> wrote:
>
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>> It will not be as simple as tying one software package into another.
>> What if the provided software runs on Win8 and your cart is running on a
>> LAMP server?
>>
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>> Keith Smith
>>
>> --- On *Tue, 5/7/13, Bryan O'Neal <>
>> * wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Bryan O'Neal <>
>>
>> Subject: Re: OT: Internet Sales Tax Passes the U.S. Senate
>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <>
>> Date: Tuesday, May 7, 2013, 6:11 PM
>>
>>
>> The real problem is internal US internet sales will be less competitive.
>> The regulations will be difficult at first but within a few years they
>> will just tie the sales software into the tax software and it will be easy
>> to calculate and deal with in real time with very little additional cost.
>> The solution to competition is either use of an import tax or forcing
>> compliance on any one who sells inside the us. And our sales to the outside
>> will not be effected because other countries are not doing this... So
>> purchasing from the US if you happen to be in some non US company looks
>> just the same. In all truth... Sales tax is more progressive then income
>> tax, so.... I am not sure I have an issue with it more then the
>> predefined statement that TAXES ARE TOO DAM HIGH!
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Jason Poulter <<http://mc/compose?to=polt@snaptek.com>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> It will just force people to buy things from sites and countries where
>> they don't collect taxes , so really justs hurt the economy more losing out
>> on sales that make economy better
>>
>>
>> Eric Cope < <http://mc/compose?to=eric.cope@gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
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>> http://blog2.easydns.org/2013/05/07/go-ahead-pass-the-internet-tax-your-foreign-competitors-thank-you-in-advance/
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>> On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Stephen <<http://mc/compose?to=cryptworks@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
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>> I also envision allot of quote building instead of online direct
>> purchase.
>> On May 7, 2013 1:43 PM, "keith smith" <<http://mc/compose?to=klsmith2020@yahoo.com>>
>> wrote:
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>>
>> Great idea. Phone orders only, placed through a local terminal not the
>> website. Excellent!!
>>
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>> Keith Smith
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>> --- On *Tue, 5/7/13, James Finstrom <<http://mc/compose?to=jfinstrom@rhinoequipment.com>
>> >* wrote:
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>> From: James Finstrom <<http://mc/compose?to=jfinstrom@rhinoequipment.com>
>> >
>> Subject: Re: OT: Internet Sales Tax Passes the U.S. Senate
>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <<http://mc/compose?to=plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org>
>> >
>> Date: Tuesday, May 7, 2013, 10:11 AM
>>
>> I predict "call to order" then the sale is not an "internet sale".
>>
>> Much like companies are cutting employee hours to avoid obamacare people
>> will find a way to avoid this.
>>
>> James Finstrom
>>
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>> On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 9:19 AM, JD Austin <<http://mc/compose?to=jd@twingeckos.com>
>> > wrote:
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>> Great.. one more way to KILL small business by making them less
>> competitive and increasing their overhead. Companies will just adapt to
>> this BS (and regular employees will pay for it).. getting close to
>> 1M/year... time to SPLIT THE COMPANY.
>>
>> -- JD Austin
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>> On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Lisa Kachold <<http://mc/compose?to=lisakachold@obnosis.com>
>> > wrote:
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>> Keith:
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>> On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 8:48 AM, keith smith <<http://mc/compose?to=klsmith2020@yahoo.com>
>> > wrote:
>>
>>
>> The U.S. Senate passed the Internet Sales Tax Bill. Jeff Flake's office
>> says he voted against it and John McCain's office said he voted FOR it.
>>
>> It is being reported there in some 9,600 taxing authorities in the U.S.
>> Add to that 560 or so Indian tribe taxing authorities. That is over 10,000
>> taxing authorities. Yikes!! Any company with 1 million in sales will be
>> required to comply. I can tell you that a company that has 1 million in
>> sales is not a big company. That online retailer might consist of 2 or 3
>> employees with some additional help from a number of consultants and
>> potentially a fulfillment center.
>>
>> From first hand experience, I would say this law, if passed by the U.S.
>> House, will cause a bunch of small online retailers to either go out of
>> business or reduce sales through raising prices or some other method.
>>
>> This may very well play out like ObamaCare where companies are reducing
>> the hours of their employees so they have less than 50 full-time
>> employees. In other words we will experience the unintended consequences
>> of these laws.
>>
>> These polices effect each of us.
>>
>>
>> Yikes, yes! And that will provide the revenue to expand Internet
>> government regulation and compliance.
>>
>> Sadly, it had to happen.
>>
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