Re: Has anyone here tried a Chromebook?

I do agree with Joseph. From what I have noticed AMD tends to do better
with a lot of threads where as Intel executes fewer threads faster. This is
the reason the opteron actually had a strong arm was because they did high
I/O things better then Intel (from back in the day at least, and I recall
Oracle did better with AMD and they did show that). I to have an AMD system
granted it is high end, but I did not spend nearly as much as I would have
with an Intel system. In my case having a better GPU has a better impact.
Not only that but AMD in the opteron family they have up to 16 cores in
each chip which does help with tasks like virtualization.


On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Joseph Sinclair
<plug-discussion@stcaz.net>wrote:

> I've had nothing but good results with AMD over the years.
> I have a Llano in one of my desktops right now (A8-3850), it's not hyper
> fast, but it's low power, cool (fan *never* comes on), quiet, and fast
> enough. The built-in graphics toast anything Intel has built-in (but a
> decent add-in ATI or NVidia card is even faster), and with 16G RAM it never
> seems to bog down on any reasonable workload.
>
> I've been looking at the latest Fusion chips, and the A10 and better look
> pretty darn good for a small desktop.
> For a server the Bulldozer series chips are very nice, not as fast as the
> best Xeon's, but a heck of a lot cheaper and less power usage.
>
> If you need top performance, and price isn't an issue, then Intel wins.
> If you need good performance, and price matters, then AMD wins.
>
> If you want a laptop that runs like a high-end server, then nobody wins :-P
>
> ==Joseph++
>
>
> On 01/15/2013 01:36 PM, Nathan England wrote:
> >
> > I am in dire need of a new machine. I'd like a new workstation, but a
> > server is a must. This would be a great system for a LAMP box but
> > sadly I wouldn't take an AMD system if it was given to me. I have
> > tried so hard over the years to like AMD but it has never paid off.
> > - From systems that would run so hot they could double as my gas furnace
> > in the winter to systems that are so pathetically slow they aren't
> > worth keeping around, and I'm talking about new systems! I recently
> > bought a Turion 64 X2 and in the end gave Best Buy $150 bucks to take
> > it back because it was awful.
> >
> > I had a Duron 350 once that rocked. It was cool and blew away every
> > pentium processor I had at twice the speeds. AMD realized how fast
> > they Duron line was, as it was killing the Athlons at the time, and
> > they killed it off. Now the Duron lives on in the Turion series but
> > they don't even compare.
> >
> > Am I just having bad luck with AMD or are others experiencing this? I
> > seriously would like to know because I've seen some screaming deals on
> > quad core and tri core machines I'd love to pick up, but seriously am
> > too scared to lose the money on another piece of junk. I think I've
> > had 6 AMDs in the last 15 years and have only been happy with 1. Intel
> > on the other hand I've had dozens and loved them all... (except the
> > celeron).
> >
> > Nathan
> >
> >
> > On 1/15/2013 7:17 AM, Stephen wrote:
> >> It seems that HP agrees with your issues. and have made a low power
> >> server.
> >
> >> 350 normally right now on sale for 320, and they give you an
> >> additional 50 rebate.
> >
> >> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16859107052
> >
> >> I have no idea how reliable they are but if i had the money i would
> >> pick one up and find out what i can do with it.
> >
> >
> >> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 4:20 PM, keith smith
> >> <klsmith2020@yahoo.com <mailto:klsmith2020@yahoo.com>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Heat is one of the main reasons I went to laptops. I had 2 towers
> >> running 350 plus watt power supplies. My office was the hottest
> >> room in the house. Now today I could use that heat, however in
> >> July and August I'll pass.
> >
> >> These net top computers are cool. I still like the netbooks or
> >> cheap notebooks though because you get a monitor, mouse, and
> >> keyboard with them. That makes them perfect for a simple LAMP
> >> server in a dev environment. Or add an external monitor, keyboard,
> >> and a mouse and you have two screens you can use. Not as nice as
> >> two large flat panel monitors, however not as much expense either.
> >
> >
> >> Once in a while I make the joke that if smart phones become more
> >> powerful, I might just use a couple of them for my LAMP dev.
> >
> >
> >> ------------------------ Keith Smith
> >
> >> --- On *Mon, 1/14/13, joe@actionline.com
> >> <mailto:joe@actionline.com> /<joe@actionline.com
> >> <mailto:joe@actionline.com>>/* wrote:
> >
> >
> >> From: joe@actionline.com <mailto:joe@actionline.com>
> >> <joe@actionline.com <mailto:joe@actionline.com>>
> >
> >> Subject: Re: Has anyone here tried a Chromebook? To: "Main PLUG
> >> discussion list" <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org
> >> <mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org>> Date: Monday, January 14,
> >> 2013, 3:58 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >> Keith last wrote:
> >>> That would work, however they cost more than a netbook.
> >
> >> I have replaced my older "tower" computers with two of these, one
> >> of which I bought new for $349 a couple years ago, and the other I
> >> found on Craigslist for $150. They use only 8-watts of power (I
> >> think). They run absolutely silent and never get hot. Here is
> >> another still available (I think) on Craigslist for $150:
> >
> >> http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/sys/3467164583.html
> >
> >> One is now my main computer and the second is just a clone for
> >> backup. I'm just now converting them both to kubuntu 12.10.
> >
> >> For personal use (except for gamers), I can't see any benefit to
> >> big "towers" with 200-watt or larger power supplies any more.
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >> -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent
> >> you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the
> >> snooze button.
> >
> >> Stephen
> >
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