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Author: Stephen
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Subject: Re: Question about linux and AMD based chipsets/onboard raid
0ing the drive was not a bad thing. When trying to mount it via rawdisk in
virtualbox i was getting some odd errors and then i had some directories
populate and it got strange from there. It also eliminated some errors so
something was lingering someplace.

Will know more about the splash screen when i get home. Thanks for the tip!
On Oct 21, 2012 7:28 PM, "Brian Cluff" <> wrote:

> Aarrrg, sorry I had to 0 the whole drive without any payoff, I really
> thought that would yield results.
>
> As for your current problem, at the grub prompt, press e and edit the boot
> line, delete the words quiet and splash and then press CTRL+x to boot.
> That should allow you to see all the boot process in all it's glory
> including the line that it is getting stuck on.
>
> With any luck it's actually getting hung up on the splash screen itself
> and will just boot. Then all you'll have to do is remove those options
> from the /etc/default/grub file and then update-grub.
>
> If not, you should at least have a better idea of what to look for now.
>
> Brian Cluff
>
> On 10/21/2012 02:25 PM, Stephen wrote:
>
>> So after 0ing my drive, removing all other drives and still gettign no
>> results i gave up on 12.04 install media. also having a failure wiht
>> dist-upgradeing from 10.04 once it went to 12.04 i tried a 11.04
>> server install media. dist upgrade it to current and was still able to
>> boot. sheesh do not try this hardware combination. it has officially
>> earned PITA status.
>>
>> new hiccup. I cannot get it to boot smoothly without intervention. if
>> i let it boot (still entirely on its own drive) it gets out of grub
>> and sits at a black screen. if i choose recovery then normal boot its
>> fine. even after turning on lightDM. fun thing is i am not sure what i
>> would be looking for on this. suggestions would be appreciated
>> certainly.
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 8:06 PM, Stephen <> wrote:
>>
>>> Funny thing is 10.10, 11.4, and 11.10 were fine with the array's in place
>>> once 12.4 made the rounds it fell over. If i knew more about grub and
>>> udev i
>>> could probably bring it back up.
>>>
>>> On Oct 18, 2012 7:28 PM, "Brian Cluff" <> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hmmmm, that should have been good enough, but I guess they could have
>>>> put
>>>> it in the middle. It's not unheard of.
>>>>
>>>> Like I said, something is triggering that device mapper on your drive,
>>>> so
>>>> there has to be something on the drive that it likes.
>>>>
>>>> Brian Cluff
>>>>
>>>> On 10/18/2012 07:04 PM, Stephen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Generally i run the quick zero which is the first and last 300mb i
>>>>> hiess
>>>>> the next step is finding a home for the data and the 10+ hours to zero
>>>>> the long way.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 18, 2012 6:45 PM, "Brian Cluff" <
>>>>> <mailto:brian@snaptek.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>      Did you zero the drive all the way to the end, or just the first
>>>>>      part. Also maybe you zeroed the partition and not the drive? Many
>>>>> of
>>>>>      the raid superblocks are at the very end of the drive, and it
>>>>> would
>>>>>      still be catching them if you haven't done the whole thing.

>>>>>
>>>>>      I really think this is whats happening since the Device Mapper is
>>>>>      trying to grab hold of it.

>>>>>
>>>>>      Brian Cluff

>>>>>
>>>>>      On 10/18/2012 12:50 PM, Stephen wrote:

>>>>>
>>>>>          well  4 of the 6 drives involved are actively part of a raid.
>>>>>          the one
>>>>>          i am using for Linux was already 0ed for that very reason, i
>>>>> do
>>>>>          still
>>>>>          have a usb HDD still attached so i will try disconnecting
>>>>> that.

>>>>>
>>>>>          odd thing is i was able to boot a 10.10x64 no issue and
>>>>> installed
>>>>>          there and have been doing dist-upgrades to current. i will
>>>>> take
>>>>>          a 2nd
>>>>>          look but its is really puzzling.

>>>>>
>>>>>          I will certainly have to keep an eye out. I haven't even
>>>>> figured
>>>>> out
>>>>>          how i'm going to configure grub yet to get multiple boot set
>>>>> up.
>>>>>          i may
>>>>>          leave it ghetto and just use bios.

>>>>>
>>>>>          On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Brian Cluff <
>>>>> 
>>>>>          <mailto:brian@snaptek.com>> wrote:

>>>>>
>>>>>              The fact that the device mapper is getting involved with
>>>>> the
>>>>>              drive leads me
>>>>>              to believe that the drive was part of a raid, or at least
>>>>>              configured by your
>>>>>              raid controller at one time and there is now a superblock
>>>>> on
>>>>>              it that is
>>>>>              messing up everything.
>>>>>              You'll probably need to zero out that superblock before
>>>>>              things will start to
>>>>>              behave correctly.

>>>>>
>>>>>              Brian Cluff

>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>              On 10/17/2012 07:42 PM, Stephen wrote:

>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                  I have an AMD based chiset and i am trying to get
>>>>> ubuntu
>>>>>                  to boot right
>>>>>                  now and it is stalling, and i am having trouble
>>>>> ironing
>>>>>                  out what is
>>>>>                  going on.

>>>>>
>>>>>                  I have onbaord raid drives attached to the onboard
>>>>> raid
>>>>>                  chipset
>>>>>                  (SB710) however i am not intending to install to those
>>>>>                  drives the
>>>>>                  drive i wish to install to is actually a SATA
>>>>> connected
>>>>>                  single drive
>>>>>                  but i am having the worst time getting Ubuntu 12.04 to
>>>>>                  even finish its
>>>>>                  boot cycle. and im not getting allot of feedback.

>>>>>
>>>>>                  The errors i am getting are ata_id[336]:
>>>>>                  HDIO_GET_IDENTITY failed for
>>>>>                  '/dev/sdb': Invalid argument
>>>>>                  - this is with all Raid disks disconnected and raid
>>>>>                  turned off in
>>>>>                  bios. just a single SATA HDD

>>>>>
>>>>>                  I get one of the two following errors if i have raid
>>>>>                  disks attached

>>>>>
>>>>>                  A similar entry as above comes up or i get
>>>>>                  udevd[167] inotify_add_watch(6, /dev/dm-1, 10) failed:
>>>>>                  No Such file or
>>>>>                  directory

>>>>>
>>>>>                  the most promising option i have so far is booting
>>>>> with
>>>>>                  nodmraid but
>>>>>                  it seems to just hang and go no place after detecting
>>>>> my
>>>>>                  CDrom devices

>>>>>
>>>>>                  This is rather perplexing overall.

>>>>>
>>>>>                  Ideally i would like my 2 onboard raids to be
>>>>> connected
>>>>>                  running
>>>>>                  windows and then let linux run amok on my extra sata
>>>>> hdd
>>>>>                  but it either
>>>>>                  is really pissed off in a way i cannot figure out or
>>>>> it
>>>>>                  really does
>>>>>                  not like that port.

>>>>>
>>>>>                  Anyone have any thoughts?

>>>>>
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