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Author: James Mcphee
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Subject: Re: attach XP computer to network fror printing
Try smb ports = 445
and force it to use 445? I remember xp sp2 breaking all sorts of netbios
compatibility.

On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:36 PM, Michael Havens <> wrote:

> I've never run testparm before. Did I do that correctly (a)? It doesn't
> say anything is malformed or anything like that so I suppose it is all good
> now! What can I run testparm against, is it just a smb.conf thing?
>
> Unfortunately it still isn't printing.
>
> -a-
> bmike1@Michaels-PC:~$ testparm /etc/samba/smb.conf
> Load smb config files from /etc/samba/smb.conf
> rlimit_max: increasing rlimit_max (1024) to minimum Windows limit (16384)
> Processing section "[printers]"
> Processing section "[print$]"
> Loaded services file OK.
> Server role: ROLE_STANDALONE
> Press enter to see a dump of your service definitions
>
> [global]
>
>     server string = %h server (Samba, Ubuntu)
>     interfaces = 192.168.0.2/24, eth0
>     map to guest = Bad User
>     obey pam restrictions = Yes
>     pam password change = Yes

>
>     passwd program = /usr/bin/passwd %u
>     passwd chat = *Enter\snew\s*\spassword:* %n\n
> *Retype\snew\s*\spassword:* %n\n *password\supdated\ssuccessfully* .
>     unix password sync = Yes
>     syslog = 0
>     log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m

>
>     max log size = 1000
>     smb ports = 137 138 139 445
>     dns proxy = No
>     usershare allow guests = Yes

>
>     panic action = /usr/share/samba/panic-action %d

>
> [printers]
>     comment = All Printers
>     path = /var/spool/samba
>     create mask = 0700
>     printable = Yes
>     browseable = No

>
>
> [print$]
>     comment = Printer Drivers
>     path = /var/lib/samba/printers
> bmike1@Michaels-PC:~$

>
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 5:02 PM, James Mcphee <> wrote:
>
>> testparm says the interface line is malformed. Always run testparm after
>> making a change to make sure the config is at least readable.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Michael Havens <> wrote:
>>
>>> well thank you very much! Unfortunately it didn't help any.
>>>
>>> look at my smb.conf file and see if that is messed up: (I added the ip
>>> addr in networking)
>>>
>>> #======================= Global Settings =======================
>>> [global]
>>> #opening ports for printer
>>> smb ports = 137 138 139 445
>>> ## Browsing/Identification ###
>>> # Change this to the workgroup/NT-domain name your Samba server will
>>> part of
>>>    workgroup = WORKGROUP
>>> # server string is the equivalent of the NT Description field
>>>  server string = %h server (Samba, Ubuntu)
>>> # Windows Internet Name Serving Support Section:
>>> # WINS Support - Tells the NMBD component of Samba to enable its WINS
>>> Server
>>> #   wins support = no
>>> # WINS Server - Tells the NMBD components of Samba to be a WINS Client
>>> # Note: Samba can be either a WINS Server, or a WINS Client, but NOT both
>>> ;   wins server = w.x.y.z
>>> # This will prevent nmbd to search for NetBIOS names through DNS.
>>>    dns proxy = no
>>> # What naming service and in what order should we use to resolve host
>>> names
>>> # to IP addresses
>>> ;   name resolve order = lmhosts host wins bcast
>>> #### Networking ####
>>> # The specific set of interfaces / networks to bind to
>>> # This can be either the interface name or an IP address/netmask;
>>> # interface names are normally preferred
>>> ;   interfaces = 127.0.0.0/8 eth0
>>> interface 192.168.0.2/24 eth0
>>> # Only bind to the named interfaces and/or networks; you must use the
>>> # 'interfaces' option above to use this.
>>> # It is recommended that you enable this feature if your Samba machine is
>>> # not protected by a firewall or is a firewall itself.  However, this
>>> # option cannot handle dynamic or non-broadcast interfaces correctly.
>>> ;   bind interfaces only = yes
>>> #### Debugging/Accounting ####
>>> # This tells Samba to use a separate log file for each machine
>>> # that connects
>>>    log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m
>>> # Cap the size of the individual log files (in KiB).
>>>    max log size = 1000
>>> # If you want Samba to only log through syslog then set the following
>>> # parameter to 'yes'.
>>> #   syslog only = no
>>> # We want Samba to log a minimum amount of information to syslog.
>>> Everything
>>> # should go to /var/log/samba/log.{smbd,nmbd} instead. If you want to log
>>> # through syslog you should set the following parameter to something
>>> higher.
>>>    syslog = 0
>>> # Do something sensible when Samba crashes: mail the admin a backtrace
>>>    panic action = /usr/share/samba/panic-action %d
>>> ####### Authentication #######
>>> # "security = user" is always a good idea. This will require a Unix
>>> account
>>> # in this server for every user accessing the server. See
>>> # /usr/share/doc/samba-doc/htmldocs/Samba3-HOWTO/ServerType.html
>>> # in the samba-doc package for details.
>>> #   security = user
>>> # You may wish to use password encryption.  See the section on
>>> # 'encrypt passwords' in the smb.conf(5) manpage before enabling.
>>>    encrypt passwords = true
>>> # If you are using encrypted passwords, Samba will need to know what
>>> # password database type you are using.
>>>    passdb backend = tdbsam
>>>    obey pam restrictions = yes
>>> # This boolean parameter controls whether Samba attempts to sync the Unix
>>> # password with the SMB password when the encrypted SMB password in the
>>> # passdb is changed.
>>>    unix password sync = yes
>>> # For Unix password sync to work on a Debian GNU/Linux system, the
>>> following
>>> # parameters must be set (thanks to Ian Kahan <<
>>> > for
>>> # sending the correct chat script for the passwd program in Debian
>>> Sarge).
>>>    passwd program = /usr/bin/passwd %u
>>>    passwd chat = *Enter\snew\s*\spassword:* %n\n
>>> *Retype\snew\s*\spassword:* %n\n *password\supdated\ssuccessfully* .
>>> # This boolean controls whether PAM will be used for password changes
>>> # when requested by an SMB client instead of the program listed in
>>> # 'passwd program'. The default is 'no'.
>>>    pam password change = yes
>>> # This option controls how unsuccessful authentication attempts are
>>> mapped
>>> # to anonymous connections
>>>    map to guest = bad user
>>> ########## Domains ###########
>>> # Is this machine able to authenticate users. Both PDC and BDC
>>> # must have this setting enabled. If you are the BDC you must
>>> # change the 'domain master' setting to no
>>> #
>>> ;   domain logons = yes
>>> #
>>> # The following setting only takes effect if 'domain logons' is set
>>> # It specifies the location of the user's profile directory
>>> # from the client point of view)
>>> # The following required a [profiles] share to be setup on the
>>> # samba server (see below)
>>> ;   logon path = \\%N\profiles\%U
>>> # Another common choice is storing the profile in the user's home
>>> directory
>>> # (this is Samba's default)
>>> #   logon path = \\%N\%U\profile
>>> # The following setting only takes effect if 'domain logons' is set
>>> # It specifies the location of a user's home directory (from the client
>>> # point of view)
>>> ;   logon drive = H:
>>> #   logon home = \\%N\%U
>>> # The following setting only takes effect if 'domain logons' is set
>>> # It specifies the script to run during logon. The script must be stored
>>> # in the [netlogon] share
>>> # NOTE: Must be store in 'DOS' file format convention
>>> ;   logon script = logon.cmd
>>> # This allows Unix users to be created on the domain controller via the
>>> SAMR
>>> # RPC pipe.  The example command creates a user account with a disabled
>>> Unix
>>> # password; please adapt to your needs
>>> ; add user script = /usr/sbin/adduser --quiet --disabled-password
>>> --gecos "" %u
>>> # This allows machine accounts to be created on the domain controller
>>> via the
>>> # SAMR RPC pipe.
>>> # The following assumes a "machines" group exists on the system
>>> ; add machine script  = /usr/sbin/useradd -g machines -c "%u machine
>>> account" -d /var/lib/samba -s /bin/false %u
>>> # This allows Unix groups to be created on the domain controller via the
>>> SAMR
>>> # RPC pipe.
>>> ; add group script = /usr/sbin/addgroup --force-badname %g
>>> ########## Printing ##########
>>> # If you want to automatically load your printer list rather
>>> # than setting them up individually then you'll need this
>>> #   load printers = yes
>>> # lpr(ng) printing. You may wish to override the location of the
>>> # printcap file
>>> ;   printing = bsd
>>> ;   printcap name = /etc/printcap
>>> # CUPS printing.  See also the cupsaddsmb(8) manpage in the
>>> # cupsys-client package.
>>> ;   printing = cups
>>> ;   printcap name = cups
>>> ############ Misc ############
>>> # Using the following line enables you to customise your configuration
>>> # on a per machine basis. The %m gets replaced with the netbios name
>>> # of the machine that is connecting
>>> ;   include = /home/samba/etc/smb.conf.%m
>>> # Most people will find that this option gives better performance.
>>> # See smb.conf(5) and
>>> /usr/share/doc/samba-doc/htmldocs/Samba3-HOWTO/speed.html
>>> # for details
>>> # You may want to add the following on a Linux system:
>>> #         SO_RCVBUF=8192 SO_SNDBUF=8192
>>> #   socket options = TCP_NODELAY
>>> # The following parameter is useful only if you have the linpopup package
>>> # installed. The samba maintainer and the linpopup maintainer are
>>> # working to ease installation and configuration of linpopup and samba.
>>> ;   message command = /bin/sh -c '/usr/bin/linpopup "%f" "%m" %s; rm %s'
>>> &
>>> # Domain Master specifies Samba to be the Domain Master Browser. If this
>>> # machine will be configured as a BDC (a secondary logon server), you
>>> # must set this to 'no'; otherwise, the default behavior is recommended.
>>> #   domain master = auto
>>> # Some defaults for winbind (make sure you're not using the ranges
>>> # for something else.)
>>> ;   idmap uid = 10000-20000
>>> ;   idmap gid = 10000-20000
>>> ;   template shell = /bin/bash
>>> # The following was the default behaviour in sarge,
>>> # but samba upstream reverted the default because it might induce
>>> # performance issues in large organizations.
>>> # See Debian bug #368251 for some of the consequences of *not*
>>> # having this setting and smb.conf(5) for details.
>>> ;   winbind enum groups = yes
>>> ;   winbind enum users = yes
>>> # Setup usershare options to enable non-root users to share folders
>>> # with the net usershare command.

>>>
>>> # Maximum number of usershare. 0 (default) means that usershare is
>>> disabled.
>>> ; usershare max shares = 100
>>>
>>> # Allow users who've been granted usershare privileges to create
>>> # public shares, not just authenticated ones
>>>    usershare allow guests = yes

>>>
>>> #======================= Share Definitions =======================
>>>
>>> # Un-comment the following (and tweak the other settings below to suit)
>>> # to enable the default home directory shares. This will share each
>>> # user's home director as \\server\username
>>> ;[homes]
>>> ; comment = Home Directories
>>> ; browseable = no
>>>
>>> # By default, the home directories are exported read-only. Change the
>>> # next parameter to 'no' if you want to be able to write to them.
>>> ; read only = yes
>>>
>>> # File creation mask is set to 0700 for security reasons. If you want to
>>> # create files with group=rw permissions, set next parameter to 0775.
>>> ; create mask = 0700
>>>
>>> # Directory creation mask is set to 0700 for security reasons. If you
>>> want to
>>> # create dirs. with group=rw permissions, set next parameter to 0775.
>>> ; directory mask = 0700
>>>
>>> # By default, \\server\username shares can be connected to by anyone
>>> # with access to the samba server. Un-comment the following parameter
>>> # to make sure that only "username" can connect to \\server\username
>>> # The following parameter makes sure that only "username" can connect
>>> #
>>> # This might need tweaking when using external authentication schemes
>>> ; valid users = %S
>>>
>>> # Un-comment the following and create the netlogon directory for Domain
>>> Logons
>>> # (you need to configure Samba to act as a domain controller too.)
>>> ;[netlogon]
>>> ; comment = Network Logon Service
>>> ; path = /home/samba/netlogon
>>> ; guest ok = yes
>>> ; read only = yes
>>>
>>> # Un-comment the following and create the profiles directory to store
>>> # users profiles (see the "logon path" option above)
>>> # (you need to configure Samba to act as a domain controller too.)
>>> # The path below should be writable by all users so that their
>>> # profile directory may be created the first time they log on
>>> ;[profiles]
>>> ; comment = Users profiles
>>> ; path = /home/samba/profiles
>>> ; guest ok = no
>>> ; browseable = no
>>> ; create mask = 0600
>>> ; directory mask = 0700
>>>
>>> [printers]
>>>    comment = All Printers
>>>    browseable = no
>>>    path = /var/spool/samba
>>>    printable = yes
>>>    guest ok = no
>>>    read only = yes
>>>    create mask = 0700

>>>
>>> # Windows clients look for this share name as a source of downloadable
>>> # printer drivers
>>> [print$]
>>>    comment = Printer Drivers
>>>    path = /var/lib/samba/printers
>>>    browseable = yes
>>>    read only = yes
>>>    guest ok = no
>>> # Uncomment to allow remote administration of Windows print drivers.
>>> # You may need to replace 'lpadmin' with the name of the group your
>>> # admin users are members of.
>>> # Please note that you also need to set appropriate Unix permissions
>>> # to the drivers directory for these users to have write rights in it
>>> ;   write list = root, @lpadmin

>>>
>>> # A sample share for sharing your CD-ROM with others.
>>> ;[cdrom]
>>> ; comment = Samba server's CD-ROM
>>> ; read only = yes
>>> ; locking = no
>>> ; path = /cdrom
>>> ; guest ok = yes
>>>
>>> # The next two parameters show how to auto-mount a CD-ROM when the
>>> #    cdrom share is accesed. For this to work /etc/fstab must contain
>>> #    an entry like this:
>>> #
>>> #       /dev/scd0   /cdrom  iso9660 defaults,noauto,ro,user   0 0
>>> #
>>> # The CD-ROM gets unmounted automatically after the connection to the
>>> #
>>> # If you don't want to use auto-mounting/unmounting make sure the CD
>>> #    is mounted on /cdrom
>>> #
>>> ;   preexec = /bin/mount /cdrom
>>> ;   postexec = /bin/umount /cdrom

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 3:42 PM, James Mcphee <> wrote:
>>>
>>>> /etc/init.d/nmbd
>>>> /etc/init.d/smbd
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So not smb, but smbd and nmbd if you want the name services.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 1:25 AM, Michael Havens <>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You know, I said that I think we found the problem. Unfortunately,
>>>>> that doesn't mean I know how to fix it. Can you let me know that?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Michael Havens <>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think we just found the problem!
>>>>>> y, that doesn't mean I kn ow how to fi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Michael Havens <>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> > hmmmmm I was going to try it both ways but when I type in 'sudo
>>>>>> > service smb restart' the response is 'unrecognized service'. I then
>>>>>> > checked to make sure samba was started (sudo service smb start) but
>>>>>> > got the same response. Then I made sure it was installed (apt-get
>>>>>> > install) but it is at the newest version. What gives?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Michael Havens <>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> type in 'smb ports=139 445'? or w/o the 'smb'?
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 10:07 AM, James Mcphee <>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Add smb ports=139 445 to your smb.conf.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> On Mon Mar 12, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Michael Havens <>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> I'll make the backup but what do I add?
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 9:33 AM, James Mcphee <>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> You would add it to the [global] section of the smb.conf. It's
>>>>>> a hairy config to edit, so be sure to run testparm on it to make sure it
>>>>>> works before restarting. And make backups!
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Michael Havens <
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> This must be text I have to add because I don't see anywhere
>>>>>> in smb.conf that I can add the ports. Sorry but I need to know what to type
>>>>>> in.
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 8:53 PM, James Mcphee <
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>> Add smb ports=139 445 to your smb.conf. It "might" work :)
>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Michael Havens <
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>> okay james..... I am figuing that this is done at.... I've
>>>>>> been looking for how to this for A while now. How do you do it? There it
>>>>>> is. I found a GUI app that did it called 'firestarter'. Unfortunately
>>>>>> opening the ports didn't help the situation any. ports 137-139 and 445 are
>>>>>> now open.
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 6:50 PM, James Mcphee <
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The error pasted is about name services, not printing. XP
>>>>>> being XP, have you tried setting the samba box up for port 139 instead of
>>>>>> 445?
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 4:33 PM, Michael Havens <
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> it isn't fixed.
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Lisa Kachold <
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Glad the Plug could fix it!
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 6 Mar 2012 18:51, "Michael Havens" <>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> okay.... I enabled the guest account but that didn't
>>>>>> improve the situation any. I checked localhost:631 and the printer is
>>>>>> listed. (weird thing, from the laptop it is listed as a different model. It
>>>>>> works so I don't really care)
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ====
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 1) As you initially asked, your XP account name was
>>>>>> changed. Please refer to the enabling of the guest account HowTo in:
>>>>>> http://unixwiz.net/techtips/samba-xp-printing.html NOTE: I am
>>>>>> assuming that these machines are protected inside your network, since it's
>>>>>> usually a BAD IDEA to enable the guest account otherwise. Verify your
>>>>>> WORKGROUP and NetBIOS name in XP.
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Please, then, attempt to connect from XP and tail the
>>>>>> log and see what Samba is whining about?
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ====
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Not sure of the logs name. Can you help me out? I also
>>>>>> don't know about the net
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