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Author: Mark Phillips
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Subject: Re: Need Help Cloning a Drive
Joseph,

Thanks. I thought that might be a problem, and clonezilla has the option for
a proportional partition table. I will try that tonight.

Mark

On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 11:24 PM, Joseph Sinclair <
> wrote:


> You're dealing with something that's affecting more people.
> The old drive has what *was* the normal sector size for MANY years, 512
> bytes.
> The new drive has what *is now* becoming standard, 4096 bytes.
>
> The 'use the partition table from the source' option in clonezilla is not
> going to work.
> You CANNOT use a partition table for a 512 byte sector size directly on a
> disk with 4096 byte sectors. The partition table records a number of
> sectors, and you're copying it without translation, so the new drive thinks
> it has partitions 8 times the size of the old; and the later ones run off
> the end of the disk.
> I'm not familiar with clonezilla, but I think there are options to
> configure a destination partition table "proportional" to the source. That's
> a bit more complex, but it's probably the only way to make it work with your
> situation.
>
> Hopefully that helps.
>
> ==Joseph++
>
> On 07/17/2011 10:57 PM, Mark Phillips wrote:
> > Well, Clonezilla is having problems cloning my drive.
> >
> > I first booted into Debian and created one big ext3 partition on the new
> > drive (750 GB), old drive is 320 GB. Then fired up Clonzilla. I took all
> the
> > defaults, chose device to device, expert, and local disk to local disk,
> and
> > chose sda as the source and sdb as the target. l kept the default
> options:
> > -g auto -e1 auto -e2 -j2 -v, and 'use the partition table from the
> source'.
> > I get a' successfully wrote partition table'. Then I get the "Error can't
> > have a partition outside disk" and Clonezilla dies. Here is what I get
> with
> > fdisk after booting back into Debian
> >
> > orca:/home/mark# fdisk -l
> >
> > Disk /dev/sda: 320.1 GB, 320072933376 bytes
> > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders
> > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
> > Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
> > I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
> > Disk identifier: 0x81d6785f
> >
> >    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
> > /dev/sda1               1           5       40131   de  Dell Utility
> > /dev/sda2   *           6        1918    15360000    7  HPFS/NTFS
> > /dev/sda3            1918        7017    40963092+   7  HPFS/NTFS
> > /dev/sda4            7018       38913   256204620 5  Extended
> > /dev/sda5   *        7018       37615   245778403+  83  Linux
> > /dev/sda6           37616       38913    10426153+  82  Linux swap /
> Solaris
> > Note: sector size is 4096 (not 512)
> > Warning: ignoring extra data in partition table 5
> > Warning: ignoring extra data in partition table 5
> > Warning: ignoring extra data in partition table 5
> > Warning: invalid flag 0xbfbb of partition table 5 will be corrected by
> > w(rite)

> >
> > Disk /dev/sdb: 750.2 GB, 750156374016 bytes
> > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 11400 cylinders
> > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 4096 = 65802240 bytes
> > Sector size (logical/physical): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
> > I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
> > Disk identifier: 0x81d6785f
> >
> >    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
> > /dev/sdb1               1           5      321048   de  Dell Utility
> > Partition 1 does not start on physical sector boundary.
> > /dev/sdb2   *           6        1918   122880000    7  HPFS/NTFS
> > /dev/sdb3            1918        7017   327704740    7  HPFS/NTFS
> > /dev/sdb4            7018       38913  2049636960    5  Extended
> > Partition 4 does not start on physical sector boundary.
> > /dev/sdb5   ?       82628      130208  3057478824   48  Unknown
> > orca:/home/mark#

> >
> > Any ideas how I can fix this error and clone my drive to the new drive?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Stephen <> wrote:
> >
> >> Woo hoo!
> >> On Jul 17, 2011 11:55 AM, "Mark Phillips" <>
> >> wrote:
> >>> I took a look at clonezilla again, and found an amd64 iso in clonezilla
> >>> testing. I tried that one, and it worked on my laptop. I will try a
> clone
> >>> tonight (I like to make my laptop work while I sleep....;) ), so I will
> >> let
> >>> you know in the morning. Perhaps the ubuntu version was not amd64 and
> >> that
> >>> may be why it barfed? I tried the CD on a another machine (i386) and it
> >>> booted up OK.
> >>>
> >>> As of right now, it is humming along nicely on the old drive.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks!
> >>>
> >>> Mark
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Mark Phillips
> >>> <>wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Mark Phillips <
> >>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I tried the alt media and it did not work. - 20110530-natty,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Mark
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Stephen <>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I have never seen that. It has run on a wild array of hardware. Try
> >>>>>> thealt media based on Ubuntu. You might have better results
> >>>>>> On Jul 17, 2011 8:46 AM, "Mark Phillips" <
> >
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Stephen <>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Honestly I suggest clonezilla for this. It will get everything
> >> windows
> >>>>>>>> Linux grub etc.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I forgot to add that I first tried clonezilla, and it would not run
> >> on
> >>>>>> my
> >>>>>>> laptop. All I got was a black screen and a gray box.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Mark
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 2011 7:48 AM, "Mark Phillips" <
> >> >
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> I purchased a larger hard drive (~750 GB)) for my laptop and want
> >> to
> >>>>>>>> clone
> >>>>>>>>> my current laptop drive (~320 GB) to the new one. The new drive
> >> is
> >>>>>>>> connected
> >>>>>>>>> to the laptop via usb - I can mount it and read/write to it. This
> >> is
> >>>>>> what
> >>>>>>>> I
> >>>>>>>>> did, but it didn't seem to work out...
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 1. Boot laptop using latest Knoppix
> >>>>>>>>> 2. umount both /dev/sda(old drive, internal to laptop) and
> >> /dev/sdb
> >>>>>> (new
> >>>>>>>>> drive connected via usb)
> >>>>>>>>> 3. I was going to use dd, but read that dd_rescue is a little
> >> better
> >>>>>>>> (read
> >>>>>>>>> error handling, reporting progress), so I installed that and
> >> fired
> >>>>>> it iup
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> knoppix@Microknoppix:~$ sudo ddrescue -f -n /dev/sda /dev/sdb
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Press Ctrl-C to interrupt
> >>>>>>>>> rescued: 320072 MB, errsize: 0 B, current rate: 29753 kB/s
> >>>>>>>>> ipos: 320072 MB, errors: 0, average rate: 29513 kB/s
> >>>>>>>>> opos: 320072 MB, time from last successful read: 0 s
> >>>>>>>>> Finished
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 4. I thought, time to use gparted to expand the Linux partition
> >> for
> >>>>>> my
> >>>>>>>> new
> >>>>>>>>> drive to the full size, and install the new drive.....but wait,
> >>>>>> there are
> >>>>>>>>> problems!
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> knoppix@Microknoppix:~$ fdisk -l
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Disk /dev/sda: 320.1 GB, 320072933376 bytes
> >>>>>>>>> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders
> >>>>>>>>> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
> >>>>>>>>> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
> >>>>>>>>> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
> >>>>>>>>> Disk identifier: 0x81d6785f
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
> >>>>>>>>> /dev/sda1 1 5 40131 de Dell Utility
> >>>>>>>>> /dev/sda2 * 6 1918 15360000 7 HPFS/NTFS
> >>>>>>>>> /dev/sda3 1918 7017 40963092+ 7 HPFS/NTFS
> >>>>>>>>> /dev/sda4 7018 38913 256204620 5 Extended
> >>>>>>>>> /dev/sda5 * 7018 37615 245778403+ 83 Linux
> >>>>>>>>> /dev/sda6 37616 38913 10426153+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris
> >>>>>>>>> Note: sector size is 4096 (not 512)
> >>>>>>>>> Warning: ignoring extra data in partition table 5
> >>>>>>>>> Warning: ignoring extra data in partition table 5
> >>>>>>>>> Warning: ignoring extra data in partition table 5
> >>>>>>>>> Warning: invalid flag 0xbfbb of partition table 5 will be
> >> corrected
> >>>>>> by
> >>>>>>>>> w(rite)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Disk /dev/sdb: 750.2 GB, 750156374016 bytes
> >>>>>>>>> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 11400 cylinders
> >>>>>>>>> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 4096 = 65802240 bytes
> >>>>>>>>> Sector size (logical/physical): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
> >>>>>>>>> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
> >>>>>>>>> Disk identifier: 0x81d6785f
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
> >>>>>>>>> /dev/sdb1 1 5 321048 de Dell Utility
> >>>>>>>>> Partition 1 does not start on physical sector boundary.
> >>>>>>>>> /dev/sdb2 * 6 1918 122880000 7 HPFS/NTFS
> >>>>>>>>> /dev/sdb3 1918 7017 327704740 7 HPFS/NTFS
> >>>>>>>>> /dev/sdb4 7018 38913 2049636960 5 Extended
> >>>>>>>>> Partition 4 does not start on physical sector boundary.
> >>>>>>>>> /dev/sdb5 ? 82628 130208 3057478824 48 Unknown
> >>>>>>>>> knoppix@Microknoppix:~$
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> It appears that dd-rescue did what I expected it to do....copied
> >> sda
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>> sdb
> >>>>>>>>> bit by bit. I am not sure what the warnings are for sda, but it
> >>>>>> looks
> >>>>>>>> like
> >>>>>>>>> dd_rescue did what it was supposed to do. However, What do I do
> >>>>>> about the
> >>>>>>>>> errors on sdb? GParted does not recognize the partition table for
> >>>>>> sdb,
> >>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>> reports 698 GB of unallocated space.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks for any suggestions you may have to solve/explain what is
> >>>>>> going
> >>>>>>>> on!
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Mark
> >>>>>>>>
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