WAIT!
Why does it not say Paul RICHARD Butts was "Security Manager GoDaddy.com" in
ANY of the press or public records? Because this man did not work there!
<bull baiting>
James, really! You are positively too easy to reduce to pure rude
emotionalism...
</bull baiting>
On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 8:29 PM, James Finstrom <
jfinstrom@rhinoequipment.com
> wrote:
> For reference:
> http://vigilantantis.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/paul-richard-butts-guilty-24000-child-porn-images/
>
> http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0215abrk-childpornconvict0215.html
>
> http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2008/12/10/20081210childporn1210-on.html
>
> Urban legends like your resume I am sure....
>
> I love everything I put on here gets attacked by princess know it all
>
> /rant
>
> -james
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 7:39 PM, Lisa Kachold <lisakachold@obnosis.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi Bryan,
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 7:20 PM, Bryan O'Neal <
>> Bryan.ONeal@theonealandassociates.com> wrote:
>>
>>> My guess is he is no longer the head of security and they can afford
>>> more A talent then they could several years ago.
>>>
>>
>> Correct! Their entire security team came to one of my Hackfests. They
>> were not in any way "slow" or stupid; in fact, they were all excellent
>> (quickly answering advanced questions for tee shirts and becoming bored with
>> limited content presentations [SSLStrip]) far and above the caliber of most
>> the PLUG (including many quick to critique and the academics selling "formal
>> education and community college classes" or contractors and entrepreneurs))
>> as most security passionate linux professionals are.
>>
>> I also use GoDaddy.com for some things and support a great number of
>> professional companies who have or currently use them.
>>
>> As for security, the GoDaddy Drupal and other point click CMS applications
>> are patched and provide for security updates (which outdoes the PLUG,
>> wouldn't you say)? Their ftp and mail is relatively secure (compared with
>> other hosting shops). But as for actual success as evidenced by Google and
>> MAC, management is EVERYTHING. I know people who worked at GoDaddy, and
>> while they can't deem to venture an opinion here, they agree management is
>> somewhat lacking at GoDaddy.com; let's hope this changes?
>>
>> But hey, sure! Let's all dog gossip about each other? This James
>> originated story about the Security Manager sounds like an urban GoDaddy
>> myth? A discussion about a personal issue of this level (which rightly
>> belongs in human resources, not a gosspy discussion in the PLUG) is
>> obscene. I heard a great one about myself recently? All PLUG gossip is
>> fairly useless and borne of one of the 7 Deadlies....
>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 7:18 PM, James Finstrom
>>> <jfinstrom@rhinoequipment.com> wrote:
>>> > um smoke crack much....
>>> > In the end Godaddy is the wal-mart of registrars. You don't go there
>>> because
>>> > they are the best at what they do, you go because they are the cheapest
>>> at
>>> > what they do. I am not aware of any other registrar that will sell you
>>> a $1
>>> > domain name. If someone else does let me know and I will be happy to
>>> use em.
>>> > I don't use any of their up-sells but I usually buy my domains there
>>> because
>>> > they are dirt cheap.
>>> > As far as the old "antidote" When their head security cant secure his
>>> own
>>> > crap legal or not then I would suspect he can't secure others. If he is
>>> in
>>> > the driver seat of the team I would assume he is what they consider
>>> their
>>> > "smartest choice"
>>> > As we have seen lately script kiddies are taking down big
>>> > multinational corporations so all around I would say the state of
>>> security
>>> > over all is crap.
>>> > --James
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Lisa Kachold <lisakachold@obnosis.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Steven,
>>> >>
>>> >> Everyone "projects" onto others what they feel themselves at first
>>> onion
>>> >> layer. Some of us can identify our feelings (jealousy, or another of
>>> the 7
>>> >> deadlies) and extract gossip from fact to understanding of process and
>>> >> duties in technical professions and shops.
>>> >>
>>> >> At GoDaddy.com ticket hockey is a large part of most of the jobs,
>>> >> requiring a specific type of conformist.
>>> >>
>>> >> Their top linux people and developers are deeply involved; they allow
>>> >> little creative thought or engineering direction from the mass of
>>> employees.
>>> >>
>>> >> It's their culture. Unfortunately GoDaddy.com has dropped in the
>>> hosting
>>> >> rankings over the last few years, perhaps due to inability to
>>> innovate, poor
>>> >> support for common users, and management shakeups.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Steven Stremciuc <
>>> steven@stremciuc.net>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> James, that's a strange conclusion to draw from one (years old)
>>> anecdote.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 9:28 AM, James Finstrom
>>> >>> <jfinstrom@rhinoequipment.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Years ago one of their head security guys got busted for kiddy porn.
>>> >>>> This told me their security folks aren't that bright
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Jul 3, 2011 6:18 AM, "Lisa Kachold" <lisakachold@obnosis.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>> > Ed,
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 12:20 AM, Ed <plug@0x1b.com> wrote:
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> >> GoDaddy sold for $2.25B to KKR etc
>>> >>>> >>
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > Hopefully, this might give them some new management. It's like a
>>> >>>> > Chinese
>>> >>>> > firedrill every six months over there?
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > The ONLY department that is well managed is their Security
>>> Services
>>> >>>> > team.
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > http://mashable.com/2011/07/02/godaddy-sold/
>>> >>>> >
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