Actually, Thunderbird isn't too bad using Orca and gnome in Linux.
It's little spots like this and I don't even think it's got to do
anything with accessibility in this case. I'm just pretty well
spoiled by mutt but thunderbird integrates better with Firefox.
I'm not sure what specific packages are out there in linux for say,
financial applications but I know there are several areas where
software is simply lacking in linux but windows users claim an
abundent choice. A generic nomination might be for some financial
application that needs some help. The only programs I even know of
are GNU Cash, and ledger. Ledger is a command line based thing withch
is pretty cool if you have a good handle on shell scripting. GNU Cash
sounds promising too but I could not work the wxwidget toolkit due to
a11y problems with wxwidgets.
Another focus on project out-reach might be to merely help make linux
more attractive to less-technical users by helping to increase the
inventory of available applications. If this inventory is actually
bigger than I think, then maybe I'm the ignorant one here <smile>.
On Tue, Mar 01, 2011 at 02:09:33AM -0700, Technomage Hawke wrote:
> Steve,
> I had that very same problem with thunderbird. its not entirely accessible under linux. its completely inaccessible under OS X, so I use mail.app instead.
>
> on an off-topic note: I have an evaluation with an eye surgeon tomorrow. I am hoping they can resolve the excessive eye pain that came up on me shortly after I went totally blind last year. Unfortunately, the pain has been bad enough that I haven't really done anything about writing up the presentation for the march west side meeting (yet). I was thinking of a brief introduction to accessibility for the blind in Linux and show off VINUX on a PPC G3 powerbook. I still have a few things to complete on the unit before presentation, but they should be done and ready to go.
>
> I seem to have forgotten what day the west side meeting takes place on and I definitely need to arrange transport.
>
> -Eric
>
> On Feb 28, 2011, at 11:43 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:
>
> > I don't know if you wanted private replies or have them posted to the list but Thunderbird didn't make it easy for me to reply privately so here's one nomination so far.
> >
> > I would like to nominate elinks, a really fine text based web browser. Unfortunately, the javascript support is very poor at this time and would probably require a major facelift to that support to include DOM support. I only mention it because a surprisingly large number of people still use it and seem to sware by it but I personally find the javascript support so poor that I go and use Firefox instead. But it might be an interesting project to get involved with.
> >
> > On 02/27/2011 06:18 PM, Paul Hahn wrote:
> >> This was originally posted to the dev list, but I am copying it here
> >> to get some more participation. Thanks, PSH.
> >>
> >>
> >> Greetings,
> >>
> >>
> >> Earlier this year Ed and I got together and planned out the next 6
> >> months of PLUG-Dev meetings. We have posted the results to this forum
> >> and are working to keep the PLUG web site up-to-date, so that everyone
> >> knows what is going on. It is our hope that by doing this, interest in
> >> PLUG Development activities will increase.
> >>
> >> For your reference, future meetings are as follows:
> >>
> >> * March: MV-Proc and Project Outreach
> >> * April: DBUS Presentation
> >> * May: Debian Package Management Presentation
> >> * June: Discussion on source code control systems
> >> * July: Project Outreach Pizza Party (hackfest or presentation on
> >> work accomplished)
> >>
> >> One of the ideas that I hope will increase interest has been dubbed
> >> "Project Outreach". Project Outreach is a way for PLUG-dev to give
> >> back to the larger Linux community. This project involves PLUG
> >> adopting a free software project and contributing our time to making
> >> it better.
> >>
> >> The first item of business for Project Outreach is to nominate
> >> projects. The nominated projects will be evaluated at the March
> >> PLUG-dev meeting by meeting participants and a winner (or maybe two)
> >> will be selected by secret ballot (this means you should show up to
> >> the March meeting if you want to vote for your favorite project).
> >>
> >> So, at this time we are looking for project nominations. The project's
> >> nominated should meet the following criteria:
> >>
> >> * The project should be a project that appeals to a broad base of PLUG members.
> >>
> >> * The project should be in a state where improvement, or addition, is need.
> >>
> >> * The project should need contributions from people of varying skill
> >> levels (A complicated kernel driver for your proprietary hardware
> >> would not be a good option for a project).
> >>
> >> * We are looking for projects in programming languages typically used
> >> by GNU Linux developers. This means C, C++, PHP, Python, Perl, etc.
> >>
> >> * The project must be free software, it should meet Debian inclusion guidelines.
> >>
> >>
> >> Project Outreach means that future meetings will involve more than
> >> just listening to presentations (although we will still have them, as
> >> per the schedule). It means PLUG-dev members will be rolling up our
> >> sleeves during hackfest's. We need more than just coders at these
> >> hackfests, however. Free and open source projects need translation,
> >> documentation, design work, beta testing, packaging, and bug fixing.
> >> These are talents that many PLUG members, whether experienced
> >> developers, beginning developers, or brand new users, can contribute
> >> to.
> >>
> >> As mentioned previously, we hope to vote on which projects we wish to
> >> adopt for Project Outreach during the second portion of the March
> >> PLUG-Dev meeting (in one week's time). Before we can do that, we need
> >> your nominations. So, think about what projects would benefit from our
> >> future work. Then reply to this post with your nominations. You may
> >> nominate as many projects as you wish. If you wish to vote for a
> >> nomination, you must show up at the March meeting.
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks for your support,
> >>
> >>
> >> Paul Hahn
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