I wonder where we would be today id someone had told our founding fathers "get over it!" and they had said "Yeah your right." and had given in. The government is here for us not the other way around.
------------------------
Keith Smith
--- On Fri, 12/17/10, Lisa Kachold <
lisakachold@obnosis.com> wrote:
From: Lisa Kachold <
lisakachold@obnosis.com>
Subject: Re: OpenBSD and the FBI
To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <
plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
Date: Friday, December 17, 2010, 5:13 PM
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 4:12 PM, keith smith <
klsmith2020@yahoo.com> wrote:
I would not doubt something like this could happen. Our rights are being eroded moment by moment. If this were to happen, this would clearly be a violation of our Fourth Amendment rights.
I just read an article that for the first time since the government has been wiretapping everyone's calls a judge said a warrant was required for every wire tape. 3 judges prior sided with the government and rules no warrant required for a wiretap.
Now back to OpenBSD. Why OpenBSD? Why not Linux? Or maybe Linux has been compromised too? At least there is the hope that some wiz kid will determine if this is true.
I know this list runs the gamut when it comes to political beliefs. And I respect that. I think one thing we can agree on is we need to be free from unreasonable search
and seizure.
------------------------
Keith Smith
--- On Fri, 12/17/10, Jordan Aberle <
jordan.aberle@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Jordan Aberle <
jordan.aberle@gmail.com>
Subject: OpenBSD and the FBI
To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <
plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
Date: Friday, December 17, 2010, 2:37 PM
Interesting information:
http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=129236621626462&w=2
Jordan
It's actually a great deal worse than you might think. I am sorry I am not at liberty to divulge the technical details but be advised that NSA and DHS "backdoor" access is available from IPSEC, JAVA, Microsoft Explorer and M$ Systems, and all of the various means for which a standard BACKTRACK user could gain access [i.e. everything] without consequences.
Be advised that EVERYTHING you type or do on your systems regardless of your OS, when logged into ANY browser, is completely available to any government staff.
There is no privacy or security; get over it!
--
(503) 754-4452
(623) 688-3392
http://www.obnosis.com
-----Inline Attachment Follows-----
---------------------------------------------------
PLUG-discuss mailing list -
PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:
http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
---------------------------------------------------
PLUG-discuss mailing list -
PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:
http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
(text/plain)