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Author: Stephen
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Subject: Re: Westside Stammtisch Details
Note, in W7 i found the steps to rewrite your MBR for windows. but
generally if you can reinstall clean then leave the mbr alone. if you
can use a second drive for boot then you can write mbr there.

On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 7:50 PM, ChasM Marshall <> wrote:
>   Yah, I know 8Dec2010 is the exception to Fourth Wednesdays:
>
>> Presenter: Mr. John Pringle -- Specific agenda topics coming soon!
>> Topics: Various topics ranging form beginner's to advanced, user to
>> administrator.
>> When: Fourth Wednesday of each month at 7:00PM
>> Where: DeVry University / Keller Graduate School of Management -
>> MAP: 6751 N Sunset Blvd, Glendale, AZ
>
>   I've been very tempted to visit one of these "Fourth Wednesday" Glendale
> meetings.
> I just don't consider myself a presenter.  That, plus I need almost a weeks
> advance planning for transportation.  Months slip by...
> Lemme see how Sal's Tuscan Grill receives me first.
>
>   Also, as a warning, M$ really locks down their end user license, so
> never grub a Windows system that can't be re-installed like new from CD.
>   "LOL"s in the MBR can be fun too.  I'll prolly be doing the assembly (from
> Lisa)
> onto a box that requires a grub boot-floppy.  It's MBR is therfore
> irrelevant.
>
>   (-:  Chas.M.  :-)
>
> ________________________________
> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 19:22:35 -0700
> To:
> From:
> Subject: Re: Westside Stammtisch Details
>
>
> Uh, you could also show it off at the next Westside PLUG meeting on Dec 8 --
> yes, a one-time date change to allow for two holidays.......we will return
> to normalcy in January.
>
> At 06:16 PM 11/16/2010, you wrote:
>
> Hiya,
>   I just want to verify location and time of the next
> Westside Avondale/Goodyear informal "Stammtisch" meet.
> "Sal's Tusan Grill" on McDowell at 7:00 pm this Thursday the 18th?
> Or is that "Tuscan"...  Or is that Wednesday the 17th?
> The PLUG website needs work.  It's calendar thinks today is the 17th.
> I think today is the 16th (in the PM).
>
> Multi-Boot vs. VM:
>   There's been some talk about using Win XP in Linux VM emulation
> for developing/debugging web pages.  Specifically, for that buggy M$ I.E.
> This method may be OK when using XP's Internet Explorer,
> but what will you do when M$ upgrades Vista and Seven but not XP?
> Vista and Seven do not allow running in VM (by E.U.L.A. license).
> Microsoft ain't stupid.  XP is about ready for the upgrade cascade.
>   Lately, the "ntfsresize" utility has been wonderous with NTFS partitions.
> Instead of VM, I do not hesitate to recommend a "grub" multi-boot
> (using a newer M$ system) to avoid when XP's I.E. becomes
> yet another software-war casualty.
>   I recently aquired an 80Gb laptop and have set it up as multi-boot.
> Currently it's a work-in-progress, but XP and Fedora 12 are so far
> happy together, with room for Win98 and a second major Linux distro.
>
> Stammtisch:
>   I'd love to show it off, and discuss grub's capabilities at the meet.
> So, where and when is the next Westside Stammtisch?  Really.
>
>   (-:  Chas.M.  :-)
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