Lyle,
Brilliantly stated!!!!!
Lynn
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 7:00 AM, Lyle Tuttle <
L.tuttle@cox.net> wrote:
> I agree, the OT thread stated above has gone on far too long and caused a
> lot of unnecessary strife.
>
> as for the political (and human) situation we find ourselves in, this quote
> seems most
> appropriate:
> "The avalanche has already started... It is too late for the pebbles to
> vote." - Kosh (babylon 5 tv series season 3)
>
>
> At great risk, I will say this:
>
> I joined this list to learn more about Linux. I did use Windows in every
> computer I own, including our business. I want to migrate away from that
> never-ending money pit, but at the same time be comfortable that there are
> the resources available to maintain a Linux system.
>
> From an outsider's view, it has been interesting. I've met and visited
> with people who are outside my 'normal' circle, and I find that refreshing.
> Some 35 or so years ago, I was in such a group, but left to find other work,
> but I always watched from the sideline to see what was happening,
> computer-wise.
>
> Having been "retired" for several years, I felt it was time to 'get
> serious' about an alternate OS, and after some research, picked Linux, and
> joined PLUG. I tried to stay semi-hidden and low-key to bring myself up to
> speed, but I have found that my life has almost always revolved around my
> attempts to make every place I go somewhat better (at least in my eyes?),
> and I found the Linux Community to be no different in that respect.
>
> Recognizing that newbies need to pay their dues, I contributed to the group
> by sitting at the sign-in desk while the forums were going on at the ABLE
> Conference (Did not get to see even one full presentation), I attended
> installfests, hackfests, and meetings on the "west" side. I tried to figure
> out what all those German phrases meant (sorry Hans) and why we would use
> them, finally after asking some long-time members about them, did as they
> did, and just ignored them. When we lost our "West Side" meeting location,
> I found a location, albeit ever FURTHER East....dang it! At that time, I
> indicated that my schedule would not allow me to locate speakers, but I
> would do the location, and I would still watch for a location further West
> to accommodate those who live "out here"..... I quickly learned that if you
> offer your assistance, more responsibility is thrust upon you, and suddenly,
> the emails you send privately get "lost", and no response is received.....so
> you find yourself with a location but no program - not a good deal, so you
> end up doing what you said you could not.....(Crying now over <G>)
>
> The end result is that I have added Linux to several 'play' computers, and
> am more comfortable than I was, but still not ready to make the entire
> switch. As my businesses are in a rural area of America, not here in the
> metro area, I feel i still need to gain more knowledge first.
>
> Every event I attend, every posting on this list, every conversation I have
> with a Linux user gives me a tad bit more understanding, and I am 'getting
> there'.
>
> My unsolicited thoughts on the OT posting is this: Each of us has
> interests and knowledge outside of the Linux world. When we meet face to
> face, we talk about them. Why should it be any different here? If there is
> interest, there will replies; if not, there will not. As you look back at
> the number of posts, it seems the most responded to are OT, but it in no way
> diminishes the real value of the "on-topic" posts - but if you look, you
> will see some 'lurkers' who, I suppose like me, are not knowledgeable enough
> to post Linux items, but watch and learn and then participate when something
> comes along that they feel comfortable with.
>
> This is far too long, so let me stop now with the thought that led to this
> post:
>
> "The avalanche has already started... It is too late for the pebbles to
> vote."
>
> Yes, it has started, but it is not too late for the pebbles to vote. You
> have two choices:
>
> 1. Sit back, complain and do nothing else, in which case, Kosh is correct.
>
> 2. do something, even if it is talking about the issues
>
> If you think Kosh is correct, filter out the OT, that's why it is there.
> However, look at all the thoughts and ideas that have surfaced during this
> discussion......
>
> If you think the PLUG people have thoughts and can contribute outside of
> LINUX, then do something. In this particular issue we EACH will decide, at
> some point, which direction America will turn. We will decide by our vote.
> You can do as I did with Linux, and dip you toe into politics (oooh, what a
> nasty word!!! ) by becoming a PRECINCT COMMITTEEMAN in your own neighborhood
> (ask me if you want), and share your thoughts with your neighbors to
> influence their votes, or you can withdraw into your own Linux world.
>
> WE make the world that we live in, like it or not.
>
> lyle
>
>
>
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Lynn P. Tilby
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