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Author: Matt Iavarone
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To: Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: Re: Killing PLUG softly
The enormous financial burden like adding $1.5T to the GDP over 10
years? http://articles.latimes.com/2010/jan/07/local/la-me-immig7-2010jan07

You are a xenophobe and a bigot from what I can gather. So yes, that
kind of content in your emails will certainly turn some people off.

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Joshua Zeidner <> wrote:
>
>
>   Jim,  you do realize that by making a statement about filtering you say
> loud and clear that it's not about annoying emails, its about the content in
> them.  I don't need to say another word, you will be hearing more of this
> for the simple reason that there is absolutely no way that the people of
> Arizona are going to continue to tolerate illegal aliens and the enormous
> financial burden they bring while we cut just about every service to
> taxpaying citizens.  Similar sentiment is emerging in every state.
>  Pretending it's not happening or pretending as if this is some radical
> viewpoint isn't going to change those fundamental numbers.  Some have become
> very used to this issue behaving in a certain way, but we are *in a
> completely different situation now*.  There is no more funny money and no
> more credit.
>   So go ahead and pronounce me a heretic.  That will speak loudly to the
> people who want to hear.  Im not interested in reaching people like you.  Im
> quite sure Im not the only one who puts zero value on your opinion.
>   -jmz
>
> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Jim <> wrote:
>>
>> Since you obviously continue to not bother even reading, let alone
>> understanding, any position other than your own, since you continue to
>> disrespect everything that this mailing list is intended to, and since you
>> obviously consider your own opinion supremely more important than anyone
>> else, I am happy to exercize my right as a list member to never again have
>> the opportunity to read any of your posts.  Good bye, Joshua.
>>
>> Joshua Zeidner wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>  I didn't know that discussing economics was anathema for PLUG.
>>>  Economics effects Linux and Linux developers.  These subjects are bound to
>>> come up, we live all live in Arizona.  Secondly, I didn't know that you were
>>> an official on these matters.  Trying to evoke political correctness might
>>> score you points in a university classroom, but not here and most certainly
>>> not with anyone I respect.  So keep telling everyone how utterly intolerable
>>> and blasphemous these very important points are.  Anyone with half a brain
>>> would take that as a clear signal to listen even closer.
>>>
>>>  Finally, anyone who is filtering or making a point of it is most likely
>>> an ignoramus who chooses to close his eyes rather than accept the truth, or
>>> even worse is invested in lies.  Those people are absolutely dangerous in
>>> serious situations and should be avoided in all situations.
>>>
>>>  -jmz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Jim <
>>> <mailto:farli@cox.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>>    And the ideologues completely ignore the point - AGAIN!
>>>
>>>    There are important issues that need to be discussed, but the PLUG
>>>    mailing list is NOT one of the places where those discussions
>>>    should take place.  If you choose to ignore the principles that
>>>    this mailing list adheres to, you will either drive people away or
>>>    you will find yourself completely filtered out by a large majority
>>>    of the people who read this list and expect to find good, honest
>>>    technology discussions.
>>>
>>>    I guess ignoring everyone else is a hallmark of an ideologue.  If
>>>    they yell louder, or in this case, keep repeating the same
>>>    irrelevant point, everyone will just have to agree with them.
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
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