On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 9:38 PM, JD Austin <
jd@twingeckos.com> wrote:
> On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 21:30, Joshua Zeidner <jjzeidner@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I agree, the people who are complaining about 'Off Topic' just don't want
>> to hear what is being said. It's a few emails- it's so disastrous? These
>> topics are very much about Arizona, and they WILL effect us all. Some
>> people just want to reify the discussion because thats a very effective way
>> to make it go away. -jmz
>>
>>
> I can listen to anyone's viewpoint without being offended but I believe the
> point about name calling is valid. Whatever we talk about on this mailing
> list should be done so in a civil and respectful manner. People that get
> worked up over EMAIL need a few more real problems to put it all in
> perspective.
>
> *It is the mark of an educated man to be able to entertain* a thought
> without accepting it. ~Aristotle
>
>
>
I say let the discussion continue. We are literally in crisis mode in
this state and this country. Anyone who is being a disrespectful spammer is
going to be quickly blocked. That is their problem. Likewise anyone who is
intolerant is going to block everyone and be totally disconnected. That is
also their problem. I don't really see any abuse here.
Would you rather have a chaotic email forum or a bankrupted state with out
of an control criminal element?
I think this is an opportunity not only for Arizona, but for Linux. I
often wonder why we have the most active LUG in the country... could it be
our unique relationship to California and Silicon Valley? There are
certainly elements here in our tech scene that see PHX as a colony and a
marketing opportunity for Silicon Valley-based products[1]. The Silicon
Valley model does not appear to have a bright future at this point. How
will this effect adoption and development patterns? What is the best way
for Phoenix and AZ to prepare for these changes? Don't think that this is
idle talk... discussion leads to discovery, discovery leads to
understanding, and understanding leads to policy implementation. And don't
assume the brains at the university are going to help here, typically their
studies are highly politicized as well. There are many groups here AZ who
are very open to ideas on how we can improve our economy here. The ones who
have had the mic in the past are typically those who look to California.
Maybe that will change.
-jmz
[1] some point out that Apple is not made in California, but it is most
certainly an expression of Californian wealth and outlooks.
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