More misinformation. We have had 3 or 4 police officers killed by Illegals in the recent past. Phoenix is the kidnap capital of the WORLD. Most of the kidnaps, tortures, and murders are illegals.
I called ICE and they told me they estimate there are about 500,000 illegals in Phoenix. That means there is a MILLION! As a police officer I saw plenty of violence - rape, knifings, shootings, and homicides perpetrated by illegals.
Just because the crime rate is not rising means nothing. It means that if 25% of the homicides are perpetrated by illegals and nothing changes we have the same crime level.
It is being reported that half of all homicides in LA are perpetrated by Illegals.
Last year I talked with a Border Patrolman who worked on the border by Nogales. He said it was no man's land. Are you hearing about the gun battles on the border. No you are not. You have no idea what is happening right here in our own community.
If you want the truth turn off your TV and start reading the blogs. The real truth is our there.
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Keith Smith
--- On Mon, 5/17/10, Ariel Gold <
arielqgold@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Ariel Gold <
arielqgold@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: OT ditching Apple products due to boycotts?
To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <
plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
Date: Monday, May 17, 2010, 11:40 PM
Sure, some of the radical rhetoric, on both sides, sounds scary, and I understand people are upset and angry. While I don't think a listserv lends to people understanding each other on a volatile issue like this, I thought I'd still share this link from the conservative think tank, the Cato Institute.
Misguided Fears of Crime Fuel Arizona Immigration Law
http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2010/04/27/misguided-fears-of-crime-fuel-arizona-immigration-law/
2010/5/17 Bryan O'Neal <
Bryan.ONeal@theonealandassociates.com>
Indeed I did ;)
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 10:01 PM, Tim Noeding <
tim.noeding@gmail.com> wrote:
> Flame wars? Really? Did you all read that linux magazine article about how
> the editor thinks they are enjoyable reads?
>
> from my DROID
>
> On May 17, 2010 9:41 PM, "Bryan O'Neal"
> <Bryan.ONeal@theonealandassociates.com> wrote:
>
> Did you not even read you cited references? It is more like if I
> called your mama fat beat you up and then drove off down the street in
> your car after tossing you a few bucks and a pick of your naked sister
> out the window onto your limp body and then when the cops showed up
> made you say thank you and apologize for wasting my time ;)
>
> Not that I am complaining. I think it was a bold move that paid off
> very, very, well. But denying the nature of the conflict is like
> saying the Civil War was fought over slavery. It is fine for your Jr.
> High text book but when grow, otherwise intelligent, people try
> spouting that stuff they are either American idiots or just don't
> care.
>
> To quote from the wikipidia page you cited.
>
> "The Mexican–American War was an armed conflict between the United
> States and Mexico from 1846 to 1848 in the wake of the 1845 U.S.
> annexation of Texas, which Mexico considered part of its territory
> despite the 1836 Texas Revolution.
>
> In addition to a naval blockade of the Mexican coast, American forces
> invaded and conquered New Mexico, California and parts of northern
> Mexico. Another American army captured Mexico City, forcing Mexico to
> agree to the sale of its northern territories to the U.S."
>
> On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 8:47 PM, JD Austin <jd@twingeckos.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 17, 2010 at...
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