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Author: Eric Shubert
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To: plug-discuss
Subject: Re: difficulty regarding (links pointing to) lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
They all appear to resolve ok for me:
shubes@edwin:~$ host lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
lists.plug.phoenix.az.us has address 140.99.58.164
lists.plug.phoenix.az.us mail is handled by 30 ns4.LuftHans.com.
lists.plug.phoenix.az.us mail is handled by 10 lists.plug.phoenix.az.us.
shubes@edwin:~$ host www.plug.phoenix.az.us
www.plug.phoenix.az.us is an alias for plug.phoenix.az.us.
plug.phoenix.az.us has address 140.99.58.163
plug.phoenix.az.us.shubes.net is an alias for tacs-net.shubes.net.
shubes@edwin:~$ host plug.phoenix.az.us
plug.phoenix.az.us has address 140.99.58.163
plug.phoenix.az.us mail is handled by 10 ns4.LuftHans.com.
shubes@edwin:~$

My resolver is (ultimately) qwest.
FWIW.

Dazed_75 wrote:
> I don't know about "suspicious", but what seems odd is that all those
> dns servers reported a result for me and, yes, the same IP as the three
> that reported to you.
>
> On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 2:40 AM, Mike Schwartz <
> <mailto:schwartz@acm.org>> wrote:
>
>     That web site "http://www.whatsmydns.net/", 
>     seems to be pretty handy. 

>
>     My results (a picture) have been placed here: 
>     http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=4086870&id=664267723
>     <http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=4086870&id=664267723>
>     ... OR (if you do not have a facebook account [password] ), then you
>     might need to use this "free for all" URL: 
>     http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=4086870&l=59c7504c82&id=664267723
>     <http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=4086870&l=59c7504c82&id=664267723> 
>     (they call it a "public link".)

>
>     Does this tell us anything? 
>     It seems suspicious to me. 
>     -- 
>     Mike Schwartz    
>     Glendale  AZ 
>      <mailto:schwartz@acm.org>

>
>     On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 2:06 AM, Mike Schwartz <
>     <mailto:schwartz@acm.org>> wrote:

>
>         Well, maybe it is some kind of "DNS" related issue. 

>
>          > All those links work fine for me using [...] AT&T DNS servers

>
>         That could turn out to be a key item of info... 

>
>         Btw, "Craig White" <
>         <mailto:craigwhite@azapple.com>>'s answers differed from mine.
>          (Maybe a "DNS" issue!)  His *middle *result was "#fails" (which
>         I also got), but as for his 1st and 3rd, his results were
>         "backwards" from what I have been seeing -- in regard to
>         that #works / #fails metric units. 
>         (unless he had some *typo?*  naah... :-) 

>
>         Also, things seemed to work *fine *for Dazed_75
>         < <mailto:lthielster@gmail.com>> and
>         "Stephen" < <mailto:cryptworks@gmail.com>>.
>          So there seem to be a bunch of things that "could" have gone
>         wrong, that did not... 

>
>         and I am still observing some "#fails" 
>         (at least with a Chrome browser; -- but I am starting to suspect
>         that this is "NOT" a "browser"-related issue)

>
>         FWIW, I am using Qwest DSL. I am not sure how to determine what
>         my DNS server is... Hmmm...  

>
>         Well, I did a search, and just as I was going to
>         "http://www.whatsmydns.net/", all of a sudden, my (DNS?)
>         problems toggled, and now my results match Craig White's results! 

>
>         Is that a bit suspicious?  Or maybe just a coincidence?  Hmmm...  
>         Maybe it could "tell" us something...

>
>         PS:  
>         Is http://www.plug.phoenix.az.us/ maybe a bogus domain name? 
>         (Did Craig White just [erroneously] "make up" that domain name?)
>         -- 

>
>         Mike Schwartz    
>         Glendale  AZ 
>          <mailto:schwartz@acm.org>

>
>         On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Dazed_75 <
>         <mailto:lthielster@gmail.com>> wrote:

>
>             All those links work fine for me using Firefox 3.5.9 for
>             ubuntu on ubuntu 9.10.  I am on Mediacom Hish Speed Internet
>             with dnsmasq running in my router with Mediacom DNS behind
>             that (which is to say AT&T DNS servers).

>
>
>             On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Stephen
>             < <mailto:cryptworks@gmail.com>> wrote:

>
>                 I had no issue from my work site with any of these links.

>
>                 we use cox fiber and our own DNS servers. with Win7 and
>                 chrome.

>
>                 On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 5:40 PM, Craig White
>                 < <mailto:craigwhite@azapple.com>>
>                 wrote:
>                  > On Mon, 2010-04-19 at 16:13 -0700, Mike Schwartz wrote:
>                  >> The web page
>                  >> http://plug.phoenix.az.us/email_lists
>                  >> has several links to URLs of the form
>                  >>
>                 http://lists.plug.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-devel
>                  >> that is, links containing the "domain name"
>                  >> lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
>                 <http://lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
>                  >> to the right of the double slash.

>                  >>

>                  >>
>                  >> I noticed today (this am, and then again this
>                 afternoon) that there
>                  >> was some difficulty dereferencing those links (going
>                 to those URLs) .
>                  >> (I tried this using both Firefox [3.6.3] [w/
>                 Mozilla/5.0 &
>                  >> Gecko/20100401]
>                  >> and Google Chrome [4.1.249.1045 (42898)] today.)

>                  >>
>                  >> Both browsers -- (Firefox and Chrome) -- were unable
>                 to find
>                  >> the server "lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
>                 <http://lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>".

>                  >>

>                  >>
>                  >> Is this something temporary?  and/or, it is
>                 something that the
>                  >> PLUG server maintainer persons "know about", but
>                 which takes a
>                  >> while (a long time) to fix?  (for the issue to be
>                 addressed?)
>                  >> OR (aha) is it me?  (is no one else seeing the same
>                 problem?)
>                  >> OR is http://plug.phoenix.az.us/email_lists somehow
>                 deprecated
>                  >> (in which case I 'should have known' to use some
>                 alternate for it,
>                  >> and not to use it, and not even to TRY to use
>                 ["CLICK on"] the
>                  >> links that it contains?)
>                  > ----
>                  > clearly there is a problem...

>                  >
>                  > http://lists.plug.phoenix.az.us  #works
>                  > http://www.plug.phoenix.az.us    #fails
>                  > http://plug.phoenix.az.us        #fails

>                  >
>                  > and obviously any specific url's off the failing base
>                 url's will fail
>                  > too.

>                  >
>                  > Craig
>                  > [...]
>                  > --
>                  > [...]
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>                  > PLUG-discuss mailing list - [...]
>                 -- 

>
>                 [...]
>                 Stephen
>                 ---------------------------------------------------
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>
>             -- 
>             Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry
>             [...]

>
>
>
>
> --
> Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry
>
> The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain
> occasions, that I wish it always to be kept alive.
> - Thomas Jefferson
>



--
-Eric 'shubes'

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