Re: which t-mobile android phone?

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Author: Nathan England
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Subject: Re: which t-mobile android phone?
I have read extensively that they can all be rooter. I picked the HTC Hero
because I prefer sprint over verizon even though down here at the ends of
the earth sprint does not have 3g coverage unlike verizon, I still like it
better. On top of that, HTC has been the primary company google is working
with to develop android, though that may soon change I read somewhere. So I
thought it would likely have better support. I am irritated that I am still
running 1.5, but I'm trying to be patient with Sprint and wait for the
update to come.... which I might not get because I'm not on an EVDO RevA
network... So I'm waiting to see.

I would love to root my phone, but I have not had the time to read up and
study enough and the plethora of different roms has quite frankly scared me
away. I don't even know where to begin in flashing my phone. It seems like
some roms enable one thing and disable another... So I'll simply wait for
the official release. What I would like to see is HTC release a stock
Android for people using the HTC phone that don't care for the sense
interface! Sense is nice, but not worth being this far behind for!

Nathan

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Craig White <> wrote:

> On Thu, 2010-04-01 at 20:58 -0700, Alan Dayley wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 8:43 PM, der.hans <> wrote:
> > > Am 16. Mär, 2010 schwätzte Alan Dayley so:
> > >
> > >> - The Motorola models are "TVO-ized." They check all binaries for a
> > >> specific signature. No signature, the binary will not run. This
> > >> means only official builds of OS can be used on those phones. In
> > >> other words, don't get one from Motorola if you want to change the
> > >> software. I have friends with the Motorola Cliq who love the phone
> > >> except that they can only update it via official releases, which are
> > >> slow coming.
> > >
> > > Do you mean the OS is TIVOized or also apps? Android Market is working
> and
> > > supposedly other apps will work as well.
> > >
> > > Official release from Mot or official android releases?
> >
> > Great questions to which I don't know the details. I have two friends
> > who have the Cliq. Both of them complained that they could not go use
> > unofficial builds of the OS and so were behind in the Android version
> > they were running. So, I suppose that means the OS is locked.
> >
> > The apps, well, I don't know. If they are also signed and locked,
> > Motorola would have to maintain a separate marketplace, which does not
> > seem likely.
> >
> > > How would it differ from other Android phones? Does HTC do it different
> > > for its branded Android phones?
> >
> > As far as I know all the HTC phones can be rooted and have the OS
> > replaced entirely, should you want to do so.
> ----
> I don't know about the Cliq because I own a Motorola Droid but I KNOW
> that the Droid can be rooted and you can easily replace the ROM image
> including overclocked kernels, etc.
>
> I saw that they deferred software upgrades on the Cliq which would cause
> me a great hesitation as they are still apparently on something like
> version 1.5/1.6 and I have 2.1 on my Droid (screw waiting for Verizon to
> do the OTA update).
>
> HTC has their own 'Sense' UI software but if you want to use 2.1, there
> are images out there and apparently HTC does have a pending update at
> some point the next month or so to 2.1 with their Sense UI.
>
> Fundamentally, I don't know of any software implementation differences
> between the various brands of Google phones but the hardware obviously
> varies and HTC (with their Sense) has modified/different functionality
> (subjectively better or worse) but they all can be rooted, custom ROM,
> etc.
>
> Craig
>
>
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