what he said. :-)
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 11:00 PM, Shawn Dowler <
shawn.dowler@gmail.com> wrote:
> Assuming you don't also have vertical black bars on the left and the
> right, then it is because your TV has an aspect ratio of 16:9 (also
> called 1.78:1) and most movies are filmed at even wider aspect ratios
> (1.85:1 or 2.35:1 are both very common) so there are still black bars
> on the top and the bottom because the movie is wider than your HDTV.
> This is normal.
>
> http://www.practical-home-theater-guide.com/image-files/ivideo-formats.gif
>
> Anything wider than 1.78:1 will have black bars on the top and the bottom.
> Anything narrower than 1.78:1 will have black bars on the left and the
> right. The only ways around this are either stretching (yuck!) and
> cropping (eww!).
>
> Shawn Dowler
> Information Designer
> shawn.dowler@gmail.com
> http://walkingtowel.org
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 19:48, Nathan England <nathan@paysonlinux.org> wrote:
>> The subject of this thread is mis-leading as my HTC Hero spell correction
>> changed my hi-def subject to go-default, go figure.. ha ha
>> Anyway, I realize the difference between widescreen and fullscreen displays.
>> I have long prefered the widescreen or letterbox formats to a regular
>> fullscreen as I like to see the whole image, even if it is a little smaller
>> on my screen.
>> What I am wondering about is why all the movies I have that are wide screen
>> format movies still have horizontal bars (top and bottom) on my new wide
>> screen 780p lcd hdtv. I thought when I switched from my computer with a
>> non-hidef resolution to a real tv with the proper resolution for widescreen
>> that those lines would go away and it would fill my screen.
>> Nathan
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Stephen <cryptworks@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> The horizontal space is not 780 lines but 768
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/26/10, Nathan England <nathan@paysonlinux.org> wrote:
>>> > I recently bought a so called hi-def tv screen and despite its 1360,768
>>> > 780p
>>> > resolution my movies still have the black borders! What gives? I thought
>>> > having a hi-def wide screen would fix the black borders issue. If I hook
>>> > up
>>> > a hdmi connection to a new dvd player, is it still going to have the
>>> > annoying black borders? Funny when we were all full screen we wanted to
>>> > be
>>> > widescreen, now we are widescreen and we want to have a fullscreen!
>>> >
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sent from my mobile device
>>>
>>> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from
>>> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button.
>>>
>>> Stephen
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