Re: Installfest this Saturday - PLUG website dead?

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Author: Steven A. DuChene
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New-Topics: Re: Cox DNS misadventures (was Re: Installfest this Saturday - PLUG website dead?)
Subject: Re: Installfest this Saturday - PLUG website dead?
Yes, but you will notice they call that an "Enhanced Error Results Page"
so that must be OK! :-)


-----Original Message-----
>From: Brian Cluff <>
>Sent: Feb 28, 2010 8:13 PM
>To: Main PLUG discussion list <>
>Subject: Re: Installfest this Saturday - PLUG website dead?
>
>Your browser should be giving you an address not found message. If bing
>is factoring into it, then your dns is being hijacked, or you have some
>sort of plugin that is redirecting your results.
>
>Attached is what I get when I try putting in something with a bad address.
>
>Brian Cluff
>
>On 02/28/2010 03:24 PM, Steve Phariss wrote:
>> Who does cox redirect to? I get the bing search page, and if it is not
>> found (i.e. truely a bad search) then BING gives me a not found page
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Joseph Sinclair
>> < <mailto:plug-discussion@stcaz.net>> wrote:
>>
>>     Eric Shubert wrote:
>>      >
>>      > Could you elaborate about the redirect-failure-to-ads trick? I don't
>>      > know what you mean by that.

>>      >
>>      > Also, do you happen to know if Qwest is also doing this?

>>      >
>>      > Thanks again.

>>
>>     Most ISP and commercial DNS providers, when a domain name isn't
>>     found, do not return the mandated a NXDOMAIN response.
>>     Instead they return the IP address of a server that just dumps a
>>     page full of ads based on the (presumably mistyped) domain name.
>>     The immediate problem is that a completely innocent typo can then
>>     result in ads for almost anything (which can be *really* bad if a
>>     kid is doing the typing).

>>
>>     It's a dirty trick to try to turn DNS into a profit center, and I
>>     find it completely despicable.
>>     DNS has to trustworthy or the whole trust model of the net fails,
>>     and any service that's willing to change NXDOMAIN responses for
>>     profit could just as easily start redirecting other traffic for even
>>     more profit (imagine if www.gnu.org <http://www.gnu.org> got
>>     redirected to a MS anti-FOSS site when accessed from a Windows machine).

>>
>>     I don't know if QWest is doing that, but I would be mildly surprised
>>     if they aren't.



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