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Author: Dazed_75
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To: schwartz, Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: Re: Need some help for a special Installfest
Yes, Mike I did and they are not available at this point. But they have
been extremely helpful in various ways so I was not expecting them for this.

On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Mike Schwartz <>wrote:

> Has anyone heard back from those Ubuntu AriZona Loco folks?
> I sent them a copy of [a reply to] an early part of this thread
> (see:
> http://lists.plug.phoenix.az.us/lurker/message/20100208.191150.1e2ad3bf.en.html
> )
>
> They might be able to help, -- EVEN if, it is (maybe)
> in some capacity "other than" showing up in person.
> --
> Mike Schwartz
> Glendale AZ
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Dazed_75 <> wrote:
>
>> Stephen, I really need you. Please come for as long as you are able.
>>
>> Eric, I will have a CD for everyone who wants one though most will never
>> use it again.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 9:09 AM, Eric Shubert <> wrote:
>>
>>> Sounds good to me. Hopefully we can wrap half or better of the installs
>>> with enough time left to do the ad hoc "getting started" presentation.
>>> That could be challenging, but we might pull it off if we keep the
>>> objective in mind.
>>>
>>> You'll have a disk for each participant, right?
>>>
>>> Dazed_75 wrote:
>>> > I like it too. Though I wish we had thought of this earlier in the
>>> > week. I had intended to make a form tomorrow afternoon which was part
>>> > data collection from the applicants to provide us with some information
>>> > and part as a checklist for the volunteers for the actual install. I
>>> > will put some thought into amending it as you guys suggested.
>>> >
>>> > With less than 36 hours before we start, I can't see preparing a
>>> > presentation / class but I can see making some notes to drive an ad hoc
>>> > one. I also don't know what our constraints might be without talking
>>> to
>>> > Yvvone who asked us to do this. I am sure she is open to suggestion
>>> but
>>> > we are still limited by room schedules and how many people are willing
>>> > to hang around for a class/demo at the end of the session.
>>> >
>>> > Here is my proposal for this one:
>>> >
>>> >     * give people (applicants) a handout and a form when they come in
>>> >     * applicants need to set up their system, read the handout and fill
>>> >       out what they can of the form
>>> >     * While they are doing that, we circulate among the folks and help
>>> >       them.  Perhaps one of us might give an intro and answer questions
>>> >       while the others circulate, but since people will probably not
>>> all
>>> >       be there for the start that might not work well.
>>> >     * We start doing the installs when we have adequate information for
>>> >       each one and answer user questions as we go and move on when
>>> >       neither the system nor the applicant needs us.  We leave the form
>>> >       with the system to help the same or another volunteer pick up the
>>> >       install when needed.  (I am not confident about this part).
>>> >     * IF there is time and IF people are willing to stay, one of us can
>>> >       do an ad hoc class/lab about getting started.  Alternatively we
>>> >       could offer to hold a separate class specifically for that
>>> purpose
>>> >       on some other day.  I could do that one.  Yvvone will have to
>>> >       schedule it.

>>> >
>>> > I would not be comfortable trying to talk the group through doing their
>>> > own installs because I know from the interviews we did at the Mesa
>>> Regal
>>> > Expo that some installs will be problematical and many of the
>>> applicants
>>> > would not be willing to attempt it.
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Eric Shubert <
>>> > <mailto:ejs@shubes.net>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >     I like this idea. A better learning environment.

>>> >
>>> >     Stephen wrote:
>>> >      > This i think might be a good idea... create a small form for
>>> them to
>>> >      > fill out for username computer name all the non-secure stuff, so
>>> we
>>> >      > can give them an idea of what they might want to think about and
>>> then
>>> >      > with them all up and running make it a class/install-fest even
>>> with
>>> >      > them installing it themselves and having 3-5 people moving about
>>> >      > helping with issues. and in the future this will let them
>>> >     reinstall or
>>> >      > pass on to others.
>>> >      >
>>> >      > even set up the form to record information they might need in
>>> the
>>> >     future...

>>> >      >
>>> >      > On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Eric Shubert <
>>> >     <mailto:ejs@shubes.net>> wrote:
>>> >      >> Should we try to do a little presentation after the installs
>>> are
>>> >      >> (mostly) done that people can follow along on their new
>>> systems?

>>> >      >>
>>> >      >> Dazed_75 wrote:
>>> >      >[...]
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