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Author: Eric Shubert
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To: plug-discuss
Subject: Re: Politics/Ethics: Operation PinWale - Obama Administration Seeks Emergency Control of the Internet
I've always wondered about people who complain about email privacy, yet
use a gmail address.

For starters, what if the technically competent were to set up and use
email servers that were configured to use TLS whenever it's available.
Some servers are already configured for this. Wouldn't that secure email
traveling between secured servers?

Lisa Kachold wrote:
> Back to the regulation of information?
>
> We don't get to vote on this, we defrayed that when we voted.
>
> What choices do we have now? Civil disobedience?
>
> On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Ryan Rix<> wrote:
>> mike havens wrote:
>>
>>> I think only land oners should have the right to vote. I do not own
>>> anything so I would not get to vote.
>> White land owning men? :P
>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 9:39 PM, James Lee Bell
>>> <>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jason Spatafore wrote:
>>>>> Until the representatives are removed...we will constantly struggle
>>>>> with this so-called Democracy. Technology has finally caught up to
>>>>> where it can be used for a direct Democratic country with lower costs
>>>>> than running elections every two years. Now is the time to start
>>>>> implementing.
>>>> I rarely get involved in these discussions, preferring to lurk, but this
>>>> is a very intriguing concept that *might* actually be feasible and
>>>> achievable. All we have to do is figure out how to accomplish absolutely
>>>> unhackable authentication without violating every right to privacy we
>>>> hold dear. Anybody want to hack that up by next Thursday? :-)
>>>>
>>>>> And yes, my first vote is to eliminate paper ballots and bar people
>>>>> without access to computers from elections. Sorry, a computer is
>>>>> available almost everywhere you go. It's time to grow with the times
>>>>> and move on.
>>>> I have to say I find this specific means-testing inappropriate just
>>>> considering simple demographics. Have we even broken the 50% threshold
>>>> of our eligible-to-vote citizens that could have access beyond dial-up?
>>>> Hey, you want to computerize (*securely*) the collection of votes in
>>>> such a way that folks in "flyover country (/sarcasm)" get to use the
>>>> mechanism without owning the device and infrastructure, and without the
>>>> yearly trip to Bethlehem, I'm right there with you. Give it 25 years,
>>>> and maybe every citizen will have some level of computing device to
>>>> participate. Until then...
>>>>
>>>> Just to take a philosophical hitch that'll probably generate a reaction
>>>> to put me back in lurk mode, I absolutely think there should be a simple
>>>> means test to earn voting rights: for the government entity in which you
>>>> are about to vote (fed, state, city), have you paid taxes to that entity
>>>> in x% of your eligible voting life (18+)? (asbestos underwear engaged
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