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Author: Lisa Kachold
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Subject: Re: Politics/Ethics: Operation PinWale - Obama Administration Seeks Emergency Control of the Internet
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 9:39 PM, James Lee Bell<> wrote:
> Jason Spatafore wrote:
>> Until the representatives are removed...we will constantly struggle with
>> this so-called Democracy. Technology has finally caught up to where it
>> can be used for a direct Democratic country with lower costs than
>> running elections every two years. Now is the time to start
>> implementing.
> I rarely get involved in these discussions, preferring to lurk, but this
> is a very intriguing concept that *might* actually be feasible and
> achievable. All we have to do is figure out how to accomplish absolutely
> unhackable authentication without violating every right to privacy we
> hold dear.  Anybody want to hack that up by next Thursday? :-)
>
>> And yes, my first vote is to eliminate paper ballots and bar people
>> without access to computers from elections. Sorry, a computer is
>> available almost everywhere you go. It's time to grow with the times and
>> move on.
> I have to say I find this specific means-testing inappropriate just
> considering simple demographics. Have we even broken the 50% threshold
> of our eligible-to-vote citizens that could have access beyond dial-up?
> Hey, you want to computerize (*securely*) the collection of votes in
> such a way that folks in "flyover country (/sarcasm)" get to use the
> mechanism without owning the device and infrastructure, and without the
> yearly trip to Bethlehem, I'm right there with you. Give it 25 years,
> and maybe every citizen will have some level of computing device to
> participate. Until then...


Well, it IS interesting that those people victimized by the court
systems cannot vote: convicted felons. When government quits preying
on citizens, humans will have evolved.

Until that happens, I don't see I have any choices here.

Of course those solutions are interesting, but really workable? Can
you flow chart anything to an ACTUAL solution that can/would be
embraced,or even possible?

If so, I am sure everyone would help implement it? Or they would be
profiting from it's failure?

> Just to take a philosophical hitch that'll probably generate a reaction
> to put me back in lurk mode, I absolutely think there should be a simple
> means test to earn voting rights: for the government entity in which you
> are about to vote (fed, state, city), have you paid taxes to that entity
> in x% of your eligible voting life (18+)? (asbestos underwear engaged :-)).
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