Re: Horribly OT <odious troll food>

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Author: Joshua Zeidner
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To: michael, Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: Re: Horribly OT <odious troll food>
"you can always go into teaching." :)

or grad school. or burn a pile of hundred dollar bills.

-jmz

On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Michael Butash<> wrote:
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/08/05/it_grad_sues_school/
>
> Couldn't help but think of this...
>
> My buddy went for an anthropology degree at a well respected east coast
> college, and has worked to survive as everything from a mechanic to tech
> support to management, none of which had any relevance to his degree.
> He however still has 60k of debt over his head 12 years after the fact,
> and will never utilize most of what his education was for.
>
> If that isn't depressing, I don't know what is, and this seems all the
> graduating generations have to look forward to.  I'm just glad I've been
> able to get to where I'm at without having to have bothered with needing
> a degree.  I'm still waiting for the matrix-style learning to come along
> for the superfluous trivia.
>
> -mb
>
>
> On Wed, 2009-08-05 at 20:29 -0700, Trent Shipley wrote:
>> Craig White wrote:
>> > On Wed, 2009-08-05 at 20:12 -0700, Trent Shipley wrote:
>> >> We used to do that before World War Two and the GI Bill.  Very few
>> >> people went to college.  If you were willing to sacrifice any pretense
>> >> of a knowledge economy and to target a low wage-no tax strategy you
>> >> could curtail all higher education government subsidy.
>> >>
>> >> If I were a politician I wouldn't want to break the news to my middle
>> >> class voters that their kids don't have a prayer of going to college
>> >> and
>> >> will work low wage, low skill jobs.
>> >>
>> >> Joshua Zeidner wrote:
>> >>>   what I dont understand about the voucher system is, why are we
>> >>> taxing just to give back credits?  why tax at all?  -jmz
>> > ----
>> > well with a daughter who just graduated with an architectural degree
>> > with no job prospects and her boyfriend having just graduated with a
>> > business degree having no job prospects for the most part, the
>> > educational system itself doesn't presently offer any prospects for much
>> > of anything now anyway. In fact, America is not the same country it used
>> > to be.
>> >
>> > As for JMZ's comments, I suppose that one of the intentions of the
>> > taxation system is a redistribution of wealth in various forms which is
>> > not necessarily a bad idea. An educated populace is a good thing. An
>> > educated populace buried in educational debt is of little use. I think
>> > the idea though is it would be better to have people going to school
>> > than having the schools close, layoff personnel because enrollments are
>> > surely declining as fewer can pay the costs of education which have
>> > skyrocketed and the current prospects for employment on many degrees are
>> > few.
>> >
>> > Craig
>> >
>> >
>> All new graduates are having problems finding jobs.  In third world
>> countries it can be REALLY bad.  However, I suspect that the
>> marketability of architecture and business will come back with the
>> recovery.  Of course, the recruiters like to hire NEW graduates.  Those
>> who graduated into the recession may have stale degrees.
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