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Author: Michael Butash
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Subject: Re: BAD kubuntu
Honestly I'd had nothing but issues using Kubuntu using it until around
7.04. When I upgraded to 7.10, i went to ubuntu and never looked back.
KDE 4 was a kludge back then, not sure how it is now, but I've heard not
much has changed.

Despite that, I can't imagine it not booting after an update - where
exactly does it die in the boot process? Does grub ever find the disks
at all or drop to initrd busybox? I've been to hell and back with
software/hardware raid, I'll help where I can if you can provide more
info on what the console is spewing.

You're not using raid on there are you? Look for some grub howto's to
have it probe for the drives - if it can't find it, you might have a
flaky controller, or disk. Fakeraid's proved notoriously bad about
randomly tossing their cookies, but pure ide/sata tends to be quite
stable through kernel updates. I run combinations of hardware/software
raid on many systems with ubuntu, most save fakeraids have proven
stable. I also really tend not to update kernels unless I really have
to.

I don't like how (k)ubuntu pushes kernels with a "normal" update, but
I'm not a distro maintainer either. I'd recommend updating kernels
quite cautiously, and do so on a friday so if things go left you can
screw with it through a weekend. I have had good luck and haven't
bricked a system since upgrading ~2.6.22 kernels.

-mb


On Wed, 2009-07-29 at 23:40 -0700, Dazed_75 wrote:
> To be honest, it sounds like you have a more basic problem (disk
> space, disk failing, bad memory, hardware conflicts, 3rd party
> software conflicts, etc). Switching distros may or may not help.
> Even if it does, it could re-occur later. Tons of other folks had the
> kernel update as well and I've not heard of any such problems.
>
> Obviously, you need to fix or install something, but I would suggest
> booting a live CD or USB stick to do some checking first.
>
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Trent Shipley
> <> wrote:
>         I've been running Kubuntu on my desktop for a while now.
>         Since the upgrade to 9.04 it has worked really well.  Today
>         the update program said the kernel had to be updated for
>         security reasons, so I updated.  Now the @#$% computer won't
>         finish booting.  This has happened before -- frequently.
>         Until now I have been lucky and some old kernel known to GRUB
>         would boot.  Not this time.  I have a perfectly good /home
>         directory that I cant get to.  When this has happened before
>         I've tried burning an Ubuntu install DVD.  That won't work.
>         The install DVD naturally has the latest kernel so it won't
>         boot my Dell desktop either.

>
>         I am annoyed with Kubuntu.  I used SuSE before Ubuntu.  Who
>         wants to recommend a good desktop distro for someone who
>         thinks WIMP interfaces are a great advance over the command
>         line?  I prefer KDE to Gnome, but it's not a big deal either
>         way.

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