I have no issue with red-light cameras, if they provide a yellow light of
adequate length to safely stop after noticing the light change, say 5 or 6
seconds. As for the speed cameras, well, I am agenst speed limits and
believe it should be safe and prudent as seen by an officer and confirmed by
a judge. As for the cameras in particular, no one has been able to make
public a report showing they do anything other then annoy drivers. Accidents
have not gone down and they are not a significant form of net revenue (gross
yes, but not net) As for the reduction to a 5MPH grace, it will make it hard
to merge in traffic safely.
As for April fools, since I don't see anything on the ADOT page
(
http://www.dot.state.az.us/CCPartnerships/News/index.asp) or on the AZ
Republic page (
http://localsearch.azcentral.com/sp?catId=
<
http://localsearch.azcentral.com/sp?catId=&aff=1100&searchkeyword=&searchca
tegory=*&keywords=cameras&address>
&aff=1100&searchkeyword=&searchcategory=*&keywords=cameras&address=) I am
guessing it is another KTAR joke.
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From:
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mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of mike
havens
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 11:17 AM
To: Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: Re: OT: Speed Cams
on this note I'd like to say that Miami florida is just now starting to feel
the joys of the red light cameras!
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Charles Jones
<
charles.jones@ciscolearning.org> wrote:
Just a note to my fellow phoenix drivers. Yesterday it was announced
that the federal government has allocated $275 million in stimulus money
for the purchase of 350 speed cameras to be put up in the Phoenix area.
We all know about the speed cams on the 51 and such, but these are being
put on the surface streets! They even have already planned where they
will go:
http://media.bonnint.net/az/15/1516/151641.jpg
I also heard on the radio this morning that they are lowering the 11mph
overspeed grace limit down to 5mph, which means if you go 5 mph over,
you will get auto-ticketed by a speed cam, and more likely to be pulled
over by police using radar.
P.S. Apparently due to current "flaws" in litigation, you do not have
to pay a speedcam ticket as the law says you must be served in person
(How are they to know that you received the mail with the ticket, so
they can't put a warrant out for your arrest for not paying it).
This has been a public service announcement :-)
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