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Author: Tuna
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To: Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: Re: Fail Message is Fail Messages for Fail Messages that I NeverFailedto Send???
Thanks for all this halp guys. I really appreciate it. :>

I'll have to investigate all of these delicious solutions and see wat
verkz.

kthx!

Excerpts from plug's message of Wed Mar 11 17:42:40 -0700 2009:
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 4:16 PM, <> wrote:
> > And adding to Lisa's responses, you may need some header evidence to get your from/sending domain off the blacklists, if you've been added.  Otherwise, legitimate messages to/from you may get blocked.   :(
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "Bryan O'Neal" <>
> >
> > Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:43:04
> > To: 'Main PLUG discussion list'<>
> > Subject: RE: Fail Message is Fail Messages for Fail Messages that I Never
> >        Failedto Send???
> >
> >
> > First, cheek your logs and see if your sending messages, or watch for SMTP
> > traffic.  You can also see if your on a black list.  If you are really
> > sending spam you should show up on a few within a couple of hours.
> >
> > However, the more likely case is that the infected machine is not yours and
> > is using your address to forge the from header.  When the receiving server
> > fails to deliver it politely informs who it thinks to be the sender.  Some
> > servers are even kind enough to attach the original message so you can look
> > at the headers.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> > [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Tuna
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 3:36 PM
> > To: Main PLUG discussion list
> > Subject: Fail Message is Fail Messages for Fail Messages that I Never
> > Failedto Send???
> >
> > This really clubs me in the kneecaps with a concealed-sword cane.
> >
> > Over the past two days, I have been getting these messages that would
> > suggest that I'm sending viagra spam to people and failing at it. I am
> > getting dozens of those qmail-send failmails. Some of them are in Spanish or
> > German. I have been just marking them as spam so I wouldn't see them but
> > THEY'RE JUST TOO MANY, CAPTAIN!!!
> >
> > I've actually been thinking of writing a little script server-side to just
> > archive them and give them to me in a weekly digest, and during bad spells
> > like this I could just have it not send them at all.
> >
> > If plug-discuss doesn't have a better solution, that is.
> >
> > kthx
> > --
>
> Tuna - toss the backscatter and check that you aren't listed as a
> source for spam (abuse.net is good)
>
> at first blush, it sounds like you are the victim of a joe job
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joejob) and you should look into adding
> an SPF entry to your DNS records (http://www.openspf.org/). That may
> or may not help. If not, you may just have to abandon the email
> address - joe jobs are one of the few ways I've discovered to actually
> fill a gmail account.
>
> If you are going the hard core email server route, you can block
> entire countries/continents by IP block at your firewall (IANA.net).
> Only if nobody there has any business contacting you and it still
> might get you listed as a not RFC compliant email server.
> Unfortunately the easy script that only allows email from hosts you
> have made contact with is baffled by load balancing server farms and
> will block a lot of real email.
>
> give SPF a try - Ed

--
Andrew "Tuna" Harris
Hacker, Caffeine-Addict
http://supertunaman.com
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