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Author: kitepilot@kitepilot.com
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Subject: Re: OK, a REAL Linux question... ; -) Ineeda"one-liner" (because I am lazy)
This looks like the ticket! :)
Digging...
THANKS!!!
ET



Jared Anderson writes:

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> Try "Sherlock <http://www.cs.su.oz.au/%7Escilect/sherlock/>".
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 2:14 PM, <
> > wrote:
>
>> Hello there! :)
>> >> As a developer. I have found that if I can not find an old file with
>> >> what I remember doing. It is often just quicker to redo what I need.
>> Not an option...
>> This is a new project and I have nothing to remember, I can only dig.
>> And hope...
>> ET
>>
>>
>> Stephen P Rufle writes:
>>
>> > As a developer. I have found that if I can not find an old file with
>> > what I remember doing. It is often just quicker to redo what I need.
>> >
>> > This is where a desktop google with some sort of meta data tagging would
>> > come in handy.
>> >
>> > google local:
>> > find me "A dotted army soldier"
>> >
>> > did you mean Makefile foo.makefile :)
>> >
>> >
>> > wrote:
>> >>>> Well it sounds like from your first post this was a one time deal.
>> >> Right now it is, but I could probably find a use for it in the future...
>> >>
>> >>>> "most closely" implies, I don't know what it looks like.
>> >> Which is correct.
>> >> I know what I want.
>> >> I don't know what it looks like.
>> >> I know something that looks pretty similar though.
>> >> A dotted army soldier? :)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> For a example, say that you have a bunch of make files.
>> >> Somedy added one include path to one of then.
>> >> I have 2 directory trees, names are meaningless (for the most part),
>> and
>> >> dates are all the same because someone ran 'touch *'
>> >>
>> >> I know that many files had many changes, but the two I'm looking for,
>> had
>> >> minor changes between them.
>> >>
>> >> The question is, which files most closely resemble each other?
>> >> It's a very fuzzy question, but valid, and to put into your context, it
>> >> would be along the lines of:
>> >> In this box of soldiers that the dog chew away, which 2 of them are
>> missing
>> >> half an arm in opposite sides.
>> >> Clear as mud?
>> >> Didn't expect any better... ;-)
>> >> Thanks!
>> >> Enrique
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Bob Elzer writes:
>> >>
>> >>> Well it sounds like from your first post this was a one time deal.
>> >>>
>> >>>>> I want to find the file that resembles most closely the one I have at
>> >>> hand.
>> >>>
>> >>> "most closely" implies, I don't know what it looks like.
>> >>>
>> >>> One Liner means just that.
>> >>>
>> >>> Is this an on going process, do you have a starting file to work with ?
>> Your
>> >>> first message said you needed to find two near similar files somewhere
>> in a
>> >>> directory tree.
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm not picking on you, but I used to tell my users, If you ask Santa
>> for a
>> >>> toy soldier and you get a green plastic army man, don't be upset
>> because you
>> >>> really wanted a G.I. Joe doll.
>> >>>
>> >>> Is what changes in the file the same line each time ?
>> >>>
>> >>> Can you give us a real example of one of these ?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From:
>> >>> [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of
>> >>>
>> >>> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 7:22 AM
>> >>> To: Main PLUG discussion list
>> >>> Subject: Re: OK, a REAL Linux question... ; -) Ineeda"one-liner"
>> (because I
>> >>> am lazy)
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks.
>> >>> Time won't work.
>> >>> These files are coming from a repository and they all have the same
>> >>> date/time.
>> >>>
>> >>>>> There is no command to find something, if you don't know what you
>> >>>>> want to find.
>> >>> I know what I want to find.
>> >>> I want to find the file that resembles most closely the one I have at
>> hand.
>> >>> It's called a "Fuzzy" search.
>> >>>
>> >>> One approach would be to fire up a loop to compare every file to
>> another one
>> >>> ignoring white-spaces, log the resulted diff files, choose the smallest
>> >>> results at the end of the run (after you define "smallest") and then
>> use
>> >>> some sort of "Fuzzy algorithm" to pick the finalists.
>> >>> The final decision is hand picked.
>> >>> Far from a "one-liner"... :)
>> >>> Thanks! :)
>> >>> ET
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Bob Elzer writes:
>> >>>
>> >>>> ls -aCltR
>> >>>>
>> >>>> will list all the files in the current directory and below.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> each directory will be listed sorted by the date files were modified,
>> >>>> most recent first.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> There are flags for the time format, but the most recent changes will
>> >>>> be at the top of each directory.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> You will have to some work yourself, but this should narrow it down.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> There is no command to find something, if you don't know what you want
>> >>>> to find.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Although, the find command, can find files modified at certain times,
>> >>>> if you know about when the file changed.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>>> From:
>> >>>> [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 4:58 PM
>> >>>> To: Main PLUG discussion list
>> >>>> Subject: Re: OK, a REAL Linux question... ; -) I needa"one-liner"
>> >>>> (because I am lazy)
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>> *diff | wc -l* for each combination of file?
>> >>>>>> have you tried ls -t, to see when the files were modified ?
>> >>>> There are several hundreds of files in a 10-15 depth tree.
>> >>>> That means that "ls -t" won't work, and firing a loop to diff each
>> >>>> one, to every other, will yield so many false positives that the
>> >>>> result (if found) will be lost in the noise.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> It has to be some sort of "fuzzy" diff.
>> >>>> I used to use a program called Uniquefiler that did that for pictures.
>> >>>> Sometimes it would come up with some very creative matching, but in
>> >>>> general it was an excellent program.
>> >>>> I don't it need now, but I'd certainly like to know if someone knows
>> >>>> of a Linux variant.
>> >>>> Thanks! :)
>> >>>> ET
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Eric Cope writes:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> *diff | wc -l* for each combination of file?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Bob Elzer <>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> No you don't qualify, this is the Phoenix List. Just kidding.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> have you tried ls -t, to see when the files were modified ?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>>>>> From:
>> >>>>>> [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 2:25 PM
>> >>>>>> To: Main PLUG discussion list
>> >>>>>> Subject: OK, a REAL Linux question... ;-) I need a"one-liner"
>> >>>>>> (because I am
>> >>>>>> lazy)
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I have a bunch of text files.
>> >>>>>> Makefile(s), that is.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I know that one of them (THERE ARE TONS!) was slightly modified.
>> >>>>>> Names are meaningless, so it won't work.
>> >>>>>> There are more changes that mere whitespaces, so diff -w ... won't
>> >>>>>> work either.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Question is:
>> >>>>>> How do I find 2 files that are "almost" the same file?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I have thought of different approaches, but none of then are
>> one-liners.
>> >>>>>> Is there a one-liner for this?
>> >>>>>> Thanks!
>> >>>>>> Enrique
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> PS: I live in North West GA, play the worker in South Florida, drive
>> >>>>>> like a mailman and consider "the neighborhood" anything within 200
>> >>> miles.
>> >>>>>> Do I qualify as member of this list? ;-)
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