The only fair tax is no tax. Otherwise someone is being
hit disproportionately. Of course that someone varies based on how you
score it. Thus: fair tax = no tax.
On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Lisa Kachold <
lisakachold@obnosis.com>wrote:
> Abolishing the IRS? Sure, that's got to save a mint!
>
> While I haven't digested the fair tax initiate, I groan knowing how much
> American's hate fairness.
>
> I also know in a very deep way, that the only real solutions will have to
> be broad reaching and deep, while American's are incapable of simplistic
> change, especially where finances are concerned.
>
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>
> > From: kitepilot@kitepilot.com
> > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > Subject: Re: Linux Administration
> > Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 07:33:15 -0500
>
> >
> > http://www.fairtax.org/
> > ...
> >
> >
> >
> > Joshua Zeidner writes:
> >
> > > The cost of living would be much lower if we weren't taking tax
> > > money to prop up real estate prices. -jmz
> > >
> > > On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 6:43 PM, Lisa Kachold <lisakachold@obnosis.com>
> wrote:
> > >> That's enough to feed 4 children and a grandparent in India. Who cares
> what
> > >> is in America?
> > >>
> > >> www.Obnosis.com | http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Citations:obnosis |
> > >> hackfest.obnosis.com (503)754-4452
> > >> ________________________________
> > >> January PLUG HackFest = Kristy Westphal, AZ Department of Economic
> Security
> > >> Forensics @ UAT 1/10/09 12-3PM
> > >> Take the Black [Security] Pill & leave IT-Marketing-Matrix, or take
> the Blue
> > >> [MS Upgrade] Pill & stay happily ignorant...
> > >>
> > >>> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:31:55 -0800
> > >>> From: eculbert@yahoo.com
> > >>> Subject: RE: Linux Administration
> > >>> To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > >>>
> > >>> Yep, and that's $1 below the new minimum wage starting at midnight!
> > >>>
> > >>> 73
> > >>>
> > >>> Ed/ke7feg ....Now that November is here, April can wait!
> > >>>
> > >>> On 2/23/2007 the morse code requirement was dropped for getting
> > >>> a ham license. Now just pass the written exams which are on the
> > >>> web at arrl.org for questions and http://www.kb0mga.net/exams/
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --- On Wed, 12/31/08, Jason <jasons@spatafore.net> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> > From: Jason <jasons@spatafore.net>
> > >>> > Subject: RE: Linux Administration
> > >>> > To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <
> plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> > >>> > Cc: klsmith2020@yahoo.com
> > >>> > Date: Wednesday, December 31, 2008, 1:14 PM
> > >>> > I want to spend $250/month but I want you *available* 12
> > >>> > hours/day?
> > >>> > Now, I can do it for $250/month retainer, billable hours at
> > >>> > $50/hour
> > >>> > with a 1 hour minimum per contact. So, once you have my
> > >>> > attention for 5
> > >>> > hours, you pay more.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > That's the way I would run the agreement.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > He even states an estimate of 10 hours/week. So, that
> > >>> > translates to
> > >>> > $6.25/hour.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Pretty comical. :)
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > On Tue, 2008-12-30 at 04:51 +0000, Lisa Kachold wrote:
> > >>> > > I worked 60 hours a week at $30,000 in 1995 at an ISP.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Working with people who could juggle 20 projects with
> > >>> > laughing ease,
> > >>> > > rebuild a 24X7 server and swap IP Addresses, knowing
> > >>> > how to clear the
> > >>> > > arp cache on everything (which we, of course had
> > >>> > access to,
> > >>> > > controlling all routers, switches and firewalls)
> > >>> > pretty much ruined
> > >>> > > me.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > I also have some contempt for the American who
> > >>> > egotistically holds
> > >>> > > down a chair, after working with dull and
> > >>> > inexperienced, yet extremely
> > >>> > > motivated Hindis.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > www.Obnosis.com |
> > >>> > http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Citations:obnosis |
> > >>> > > hackfest.obnosis.com (503)754-4452
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> >
> ______________________________________________________________________
> > >>> > > January PLUG HackFest = Kristy Westphal, AZ Department
> > >>> > of Economic
> > >>> > > Security Forensics @ UAT 1/10/09 12-3PM
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> >
> ______________________________________________________________________
> > >>> > > Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 20:09:37 -0700
> > >>> > > From: mike@garfias.org
> > >>> > > To: klsmith2020@yahoo.com;
> > >>> > plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > >>> > > Subject: Re: Linux Administration
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > What a dork. And expecting good people for that much?
> > >>> > Jeez. Maybe if
> > >>> > > I was a junior guy and needed beer money it might be
> > >>> > ok, but no
> > >>> > > thanks.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 6:58 PM, keith smith
> > >>> > <klsmith2020@yahoo.com>
> > >>> > > wrote:
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > I see this stuff from time to time. He is in
> > >>> > for a rude
> > >>> > > awakening since they are asleep while we are
> > >>> > awake.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Funny thing is the phone shops are starting to
> > >>> > come back to
> > >>> > > the US.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Even though I can hire a PHP programmer for $5
> > >>> > - $12 and hour
> > >>> > > offshore I would never. I've seen their
> > >>> > work and I'll pass.
> > >>> > > Not to mention the copyright issues that
> > >>> > arise.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > ------------------------
> > >>> > > Keith Smith
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > --- On Sun, 12/28/08, Lisa Kachold
> > >>> > <lisakachold@obnosis.com>
> > >>> > > wrote:
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > From: Lisa Kachold
> > >>> > <lisakachold@obnosis.com>
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Subject: RE: Linux Administration
> > >>> > > To: klsmith2020@yahoo.com,
> > >>> > > plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > >>> > > Date: Sunday, December 28, 2008, 6:25
> > >>> > PM
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > I personally was slightly aghast that
> > >>> > people were
> > >>> > > offering to provide offshore based
> > >>> > linux
> > >>> > > administration for $250 for a month?
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Did you see that?
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > www.Obnosis.com |
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Citations:obnosis |
> > >>> > > hackfest.obnosis.com (503)754-4452
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > ______________________________________________________
> > >>> > > January PLUG HackFest = Kristy
> > >>> > Westphal, AZ Department
> > >>> > > of Economic Security Forensics @ UAT
> > >>> > 1/10/09 12-3PM
> > >>> > > Take the Black [Linux BT3] Pill &
> > >>> > leave
> > >>> > > SecurityMatrix, or take the Blue
> > >>> > [XP/Vista Pill] &
> > >>> > > stay happily ignorant.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > ______________________________________________________
> > >>> > > Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:00:32 -0800
> > >>> > > From: klsmith2020@yahoo.com
> > >>> > > Subject: Re: Linux Administration
> > >>> > > To:
> > >>> > plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > I'm not sure what you are trying
> > >>> > to tell us Lisa.
> > >>> > > Please be more verbose.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > ------------------------
> > >>> > > Keith
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > --- On Sat, 12/27/08, Lisa Kachold
> > >>> > > <lisakachold@obnosis.com> wrote:
> > >>> > > From: Lisa Kachold
> > >>> > <lisakachold@obnosis.com>
> > >>> > > Subject: Linux Administration
> > >>> > > To:
> > >>> > plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > >>> > > Date: Saturday, December 27,
> > >>> > 2008, 7:02 PM
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> http://www.getafreelancer.com/projects/Linux/Level-System-Admin-for-EST.html
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > www.Obnosis.com |
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Citations:obnosis |
> > >>> > hackfest.obnosis.com (503)754-4452
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > ______________________________________________
> > >>> > > January PLUG HackFest = Kristy
> > >>> > Westphal, AZ
> > >>> > > Department of Economic
> > >>> > Security Forensics @
> > >>> > > UAT 1/10/09 12-3PM
> > >>> > > Take the Black [Linux BT3]
> > >>> > Pill & leave
> > >>> > > SecurityMatrix, or take the
> > >>> > Blue [XP/Vista
> > >>> > > Pill] & stay happily
> > >>> > ignorant.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
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